Why choose an LCR over a J-frame?

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I've had more than a few J-frames over time and still have a couple (a 640-1 and a 60-1). I've never liked the looks of the LCR and never will but my wife struggles with pulling the trigger (DA) on the J-frame but has no problem with the DA pull on the little Ruger. Accordingly, the LCR is the revolver that hides out in her purse. DA triggers on revolvers have to be easy to pull for use in self-defense and for that reason, the new Colt King Cobra is the gun that resides in my wife's bedside cabinet.
 
You are a fussy bunch.

I've always enjoyed Ruger revolvers. I had my sights set on an LCR in 2019, and I found a 357, NIB for $550. Jumped on that, and I've been happy with it ever since.

I think mostly this a Ford/Chevy/Dodge type issue.
 
Trigger and availability in .327

I have four

S&W 438. .38 SP I like being able to cock the hammer if I want to while still having it shrouded. I have carried it a lot over the years in pocket and IWB. Pretty stiff trigger.

S&W 331 TI- .32 Mag. The lightest gun I have ever owned or shot. Its like its not even there. But for whatever reason I never carry it. VERY stiff trigger

Taurus 85- .38sp. All steel about 20 years old. It is the most accurate of the bunch when fired single action and is used quite a bit at the range. Dont carry often because of the exposed hammer.

Ruger LCR- .327 Fed. Carry it a lot including right now. It has by far the best trigger and is the most accurate DA out of the group. Yes you have to practice not to short stroke it. In fact that's the one drawback I can find. I don't have any problem with the weight or size in my pockets.
 
Started out with the LCR family, and recently dabbled with J-frames. It's only the LCR for me now in 22LR and 22WMR along with an SP-10132 H&R. Not sure I can articulate a good reason why I prefer them but suppose it's like of a number of J-frame guys here preferring what they have so much time with and started out with. Just more comfortable with the LCR and glad we have so many choices.
 
I have had a 340PD for at least 16 years. The original finish wore off it and I sent it in and they replaced the frame and barrel and reinstalled my cylinder. Gave me paperwork with a new serial number, and it has been working well for me 10+ years since the repair. I carry it often but shoot it very rarely. I do shoot light recoil .357 magnum in it and when I do take it out to the range, I shoot .38 special light loads. Don't get me wrong, this firearm bites! Gave it to a friend to try, he shot one round and handed back to me. He really didn't care for it. I have always owned Smith and Wesson revolvers. The "push" to open the cylinder has become second nature. While I like Colts, pulling back to open the cylinder, maybe a challenge for me in a stressful situation. It is the same reason that I don't own a semi auto with a safety (IE 1911). It a stressful environment, my fear is that I would attempt to squeeze the trigger, and not think of taking off the safety. Call me weird, but I call myself a creature of habit. Now if I had no experience with S&W revolvers, I would take a look at the Ruger and for that matter the Kimber. They both make excellent firearms.
 
While I like Colts, pulling back to open the cylinder, maybe a challenge for me in a stressful situation. It is the same reason that I don't own a semi auto with a safety (IE 1911). It a stressful environment, my fear is that I would attempt to squeeze the trigger, and not think of taking off the safety. Call me weird, but I call myself a creature of habit.

Good training and plenty of practice obviates ingrained "habits". It doesn't take many squeezes of the trigger in controlled tactical environs that mimic "stress" before releasing a safety on an auto or opening a cylinder on a revolver becomes second nature. I have Ruger, Colt and Smith & Wesson revolvers, each requiring different movements to use the cylinder release and I adjust to each without giving it much thought.

I do agree though that, if training and practice is not feasible or practical in any given situation, it's probably best to stick with what you know best and are most comfortable with.
 
Good training and plenty of practice obviates ingrained "habits". It doesn't take many squeezes of the trigger in controlled tactical environs that mimic "stress" before releasing a safety on an auto or opening a cylinder on a revolver becomes second nature. I have Ruger, Colt and Smith & Wesson revolvers, each requiring different movements to use the cylinder release and I adjust to each without giving it much thought.

I do agree though that, if training and practice is not feasible or practical in any given situation, it's probably best to stick with what you know best and are most comfortable with.

Just practice or “training” to overcome something someone has done for years not that simple. I have been shooting SW j revolvers, personal use/professionally/competitively, for over 25 years before the LCR came out. I would have to use nothing but LCRs until a couple of years ago to over come my “double clutching” of the trigger due to the length of time I have used the SW trigger. Case in point, I have been using my LCR38 for three months for dryfire practice. 100 trigger pulls in the morning and 100 at night, with 25 reloads during each session. At 25 days a month times three, that’s over 15k worth of trigger pulls. Yet I still “double clutch” the damn thing when doing double or triple taps. When something is so imbedded into our self conscious and muscle memory, it takes all the time you spent learning and using that “habit” plus one more to overcome it they say. But in reality it may never be overcomed. You are not overcoming familiarity in a few range sessions. And someone stated that the “double clutching” really only happens during dry fire practice. I will say that I have noticed that during firing sessions I do not experience the false reset as much as when dry firing, but I do experience it. Enough that I won’t carry a LCR unless it’s one of the rimfire caliber due to the heavier trigger return springs.

Now none of this take away from the fact that the LCR is a great line of pistols from Ruger. I have owned all of the various LCRs and keep the 22lr and 22mag around, at least for now.

Lefty
 
Just practice or “training” to overcome something someone has done for years not that simple. I have been shooting SW j revolvers, personal use/professionally/competitively, for over 25 years before the LCR came out. I would have to use nothing but LCRs until a couple of years ago to over come my “double clutching” of the trigger due to the length of time I have used the SW trigger. Case in point, I have been using my LCR38 for three months for dryfire practice. 100 trigger pulls in the morning and 100 at night, with 25 reloads during each session. At 25 days a month times three, that’s over 15k worth of trigger pulls. Yet I still “double clutch” the damn thing when doing double or triple taps. When something is so imbedded into our self conscious and muscle memory, it takes all the time you spent learning and using that “habit” plus one more to overcome it they say. But in reality it may never be overcomed. You are not overcoming familiarity in a few range sessions. And someone stated that the “double clutching” really only happens during dry fire practice. I will say that I have noticed that during firing sessions I do not experience the false reset as much as when dry firing, but I do experience it. Enough that I won’t carry a LCR unless it’s one of the rimfire caliber due to the heavier trigger return springs.

Now none of this take away from the fact that the LCR is a great line of pistols from Ruger. I have owned all of the various LCRs and keep the 22lr and 22mag around, at least for now.

Lefty
You just need to shoot heavier-recoiling versions/ammo in the LCR's. That'll slow down your trigger finger. :thumbup:
 
I was looking at pocket revolvers at a gun show this weekend and I can’t figure out why someone would choose a Ruger LCR over a S&W J-frame, at least in 38 special. The Ruger seems bulkier, clunkier, harder to conceal and is more expensive based on the samples I saw.

What’s the appeal?

I did not choose the LCR because it was pretty, I chose the Ruger because it works and I trust it and it shoots better IMO. The Ruger requires little in the way of maintenance as well, the trigger is decent and the polymer frame absorbs the recoil of the .357 rounds.

Too many people choose guns on looks and S&W does not have the sterling reputation they once had. The choice for a carry gun that will stay hidden most of the time is simple, the Ruger LCR hands down for me, it is a rugged and reliable beast.

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How do you figure a polymer frame reduces recoil? recoil is a matter of cartridge, weight and design ...

The polymer can flex more.

But the main reason is the shape. The LCR frame is well inside the grip, so there is alot of rubber grip between your hand and the frame.

The old S&W puts the frame right against your paw...smack!

And...the .357 / .327, and 9mm LCR's weigh more. Just over 17 oz vs 15 ounces for a s&w alluminum .38.

The LCR .38 weighs 13.5 oz.
 
The polymer can flex more.

But the main reason is the shape. The LCR frame is well inside the grip, so there is alot of rubber grip between your hand and the frame.

The old S&W puts the frame right against your paw...smack!

And...the .357 / .327, and 9mm LCR's weigh more. Just over 17 oz vs 15 ounces for a s&w alluminum .38.

The LCR .38 weighs 13.5 oz.
To be fair, Hogue offers rubberized grips for Jframes simular to the LCR's for $20-$25.
 
The polymer can flex more.

But the main reason is the shape. The LCR frame is well inside the grip, so there is alot of rubber grip between your hand and the frame.

The old S&W puts the frame right against your paw...smack!

And...the .357 / .327, and 9mm LCR's weigh more. Just over 17 oz vs 15 ounces for a s&w alluminum .38.

The LCR .38 weighs 13.5 oz.
Lighter guns of similar design recoil more.. polymer guns of the same weight n cartridge recoil as much... "felt recoil" is a different matter.... physics don't change for polymer...
 
I've had two 38 spl LCRs , a standard 2" barrel and an LCR-X with a 3" barrel. I've sold both of them. I liked the trigger pulls but they could be short stroked. Both Rugers twisted a lot when using jacketed bullets over 125 grains, perhaps caused by a tight barrel. . The trigger itself had significant curve at the bottom. Unless I kept a death grip on the gun, the bottom of the trigger would whack the underside of my trigger finger. The sights were decent. Recoil was unpleasant with heavier bullets.

My SW638 had a heavier trigger pull but a little smoothing of the action by a gunsmith and lighter mainspring has made the trigger better than the Rugers'. I like the shrouded hammer of the 638 that gives the option of single action shooting if needed. Because it is a CCW, I don't car how it looks, The 638 has better options of grips so I use a longer Hogue grip that allows my pinkie finger. of my large hands to rest on the grip. I think that's vital for controlling follow up shots. Perceived recoil with the larger grips is less than the Rugers. The 638's front sight is not as good but I painted it Dayglow Orange and it is more than good enough for shooting out to 10 yards.

I'm considering getting a SW649 or 640 and using 38 spl +P ammo in it.
 
With a bit of polishing and spring work my S&W 60 no dash has a trigger like butter , reliable butter. I never adapted to the LCR trigger , gave up trying.
Also , the J frame points more naturally for me.

This discussion could go on forever…..
 
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