Why don't we have a lever action 9mm?

[Bfh_auto]

I got the wild idea that a model 92 Winchester in 9mm would be pretty sweet.
It would be cheap and hold more rounds than a 357/38.
Why hasn't anyone done this? It should only take a modded lifter assembly for the shorter rounds.

 

[Alaskan Ironworker]

Or .45 acp for that matter!

 

[someguy2800]

Nervousness about pointy bullets in the magazine tube. I would buy one in a second if someone made one. It would sure be nice if someone came up with something clever to overcome that, other than the obvious of just not loading it with pointy bullets.

 

[LRDGCO]

I would imagine that Mossberg might be working on just such an abomination as we speak. A detachable box magazine lever action 9mm for shooting Nazi Zombies. Or some such. It will be called The Kowtactikewl, or some such thing.

 

[Bfh_auto]

I would imagine that Mossberg might be working on just such an abomination as we speak. A detachable box magazine lever action 9mm for shooting Nazi Zombies. Or some such. It will be called The Kowtactikewl, or some such thing.

That's funny, but I meant a tube mag.

 

[Bfh_auto]

Nervousness about pointy bullets in the magazine tube. I would buy one in a second if someone made one. It would sure be nice if someone came up with something clever to overcome that, other than the obvious of just not loading it with pointy bullets.

I have run fmj in my 357 without issues.

 

[somethingbenign]

Custom shops have done all this before. I remember seeing one that was chambered for 10mm but could also fire 40 because it headspaced off the ejector. Putting the relatively shorter rounds into a feed gate would be a pain for sure.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/11/01/10mm-40sw-ranger-point-precision-1040ss/

 

[crestoncowboy]

Would be better in a tube loaded gun than a feed gate loaded one definitely

 

[Bfh_auto]

Would be better in a tube loaded gun than a feed gate loaded one definitely

Ok a Henry would do.

 

[627PCFan]

I would gamble and shoot one with needle-like pointy bullets in the mag tube. Unless it was an all aluminum airlite-type mode of lever action we have never seen, the recoil would impossible to set off those primers. OAL and feeding is another very real issue altogether.

 

[danez71]

Tube fed with no crimp round = possible really bad set back issues.....?

ETA. I'd probably buy one though.

 

[earlthegoat2]

I’m waiting on a .450 Bushmaster lever gun.

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

I would gamble and shoot one with needle-like pointy bullets in the mag tube. Unless it was an all aluminum airlite-type mode of lever action we have never seen, the recoil would impossible to set off those primers.

Howdy

Recoil is not the issue with pointed bullets. The issue is when the spring loaded follower slams the column of rounds in the magazine backwards every time the carrier strips one out of the magazine.

 

[ECVMatt]

I found this video interesting:

https://www.castbulletassoc.org/forum/thread/pointed-bullets-in-tubular-magazines/?order=Votes

Not saying I would ever load pointed bullets in a tube mag, but the dangers might be a bit overstated. I think a 9mm would be fine.

 

[RedlegRick]

I would gamble and shoot one with needle-like pointy bullets in the mag tube. Unless it was an all aluminum airlite-type mode of lever action we have never seen, the recoil would impossible to set off those primers. OAL and feeding is another very real issue altogether.

I'd be interested in an all-aluminum airlite lever action. When I saw your post, my mind instantly thought of the Ruger 96/22, only chambered in CF pistol calibers instead. Heck, with the tech we have now, a manufacturer could do a visual clone of the Savage 99 a la what Umarex does.
But then the realities of business set in, and it's just a pipe dream.

 

[troy fairweather]

Nervousness about pointy bullets in the magazine tube. I would buy one in a second if someone made one. It would sure be nice if someone came up with something clever to overcome that, other than the obvious of just not loading it with pointy bullets.

i would love a lever 9mm, they could do a spiral mag tube like the remington 14/141,

 

[Mosin Bubba]

You'd probably have re-scale the whole action to see the advantage, but the lever throw for a 9mm would be sweet.

The Henry Golden Boys in 22 LR have to move next to no distance to load and eject the short little cartridges. So the lever on those guns is smoother than butter, with no hitching whatsoever. A 9mm is a little longer than a 22 LR, but not by that much.

Come to think of it, it would probably need to tube-load like a 22 as well in order to be practical. Count me in on Team Loading Gate in the lever action wars, but loading those short little 9mms though a gate with your thumb would get pretty painful.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

I would imagine that Mossberg might be working on just such an abomination as we speak. A detachable box magazine lever action 9mm for shooting Nazi Zombies. Or some such. It will be called The Kowtactikewl, or some such thing.

You chose the right word...abomination.

 

[EO1]

Aint gonna happen unless there's a 9x19r rimmed round out there somewhere.
Or cut 10mm off the length of a 38 spl case and try to home brew one.

 

[jmr40]

Aint gonna happen unless there's a 9x19r rimmed round out there somewhere

http://www.ammo-one.com/9mmFedRim.html

They used to make it, no reason they couldn't again. But why? They have been making lever actions in 35 Rem, a rimless cartridge, since at least the 1950's. You don't have to shoot rimmed cartridges in a lever action.

 

[Random 8]

I think it would be a lot of fun for plinking and casual target shooting. Lots of cheap ammo=lots of fun. I do enjoy shooting a friends Hi-point carbine for this same reason, even though it is a high point, and I wish I'd never sold my destroyer carbine (got an offer just too good). BTW, 9mm in a bolt action can do some interesting things, likewise in a lever.

What I'd really like to see is a clone of the colt lightning in this caliber though.

 

[troy fairweather]

I think it would be a lot of fun for plinking and casual target shooting. Lots of cheap ammo=lots of fun. I do enjoy shooting a friends Hi-point carbine for this same reason, even though it is a high point, and I wish I'd never sold my destroyer carbine (got an offer just too good). BTW, 9mm in a bolt action can do some interesting things, likewise in a lever.

What I'd really like to see is a clone of the colt lightning in this caliber though.

yes a pump would be fun, id like one of the remington 14 1/2. i have a arisaka 99 action i would like to make a 45acp, 9mm would be harder to do.

 

[22250Rem]

It's an interesting concept...... Considering how some folks like pistol caliber carbines. A compact lever gun in 9mm would be be neat. Last July I purchased a Ruger PC Carbine; if I had the option of a 9mm lever gun instead, I'd have probably got the lever gun. Not knocking the Ruger because I like it; but I also like lever guns.

 

[jmorris]

i would love a lever 9mm, they could do a spiral mag tube like the remington 14/141,

Now your talking. Except use the heilcal 100 round Calico 9mm mags, if for no other reason than to make a liberal have high blood pressure.

 

[Charlie98]

http://www.ammo-one.com/9mmFedRim.html

They used to make it, no reason they couldn't again. But why? They have been making lever actions in 35 Rem, a rimless cartridge, since at least the 1950's. You don't have to shoot rimmed cartridges in a lever action.

Wrong... in fact, I have a Savage 99 in .308, it's a fine rifle... but those cartridges headspace on the shoulder, not the case mouth.