Why would one choose 280 rem over 30-06?

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I love all the great caliber/cartridge debates. Mainly just for debate though, paper ballistics and whatnot. Any firearm related topic is fun to discuss, even ad nauseum.

The pure and simple truth in my eyes is most everyone has their preference reguardless of the facts. Most come up with their "cartridge of choice" because of their 1st gun or what their daddy swore by or because some annoying person always bragged about a different cartridge etc. Then they try to look up facts to justify this one cartridge as "the one" after already making their decision.

So many irrational dislikes of cartridge or calibers and a Mt of opinion goes into these choices and debates and being that each of us have the right to choose based on whatever criteria we so choose, we are always correct on our choice. Wether that's paper performance or just to be different.

I personally am a fan of all cartridges to a certain extent and I'm fairly unbiased. I don't "hate" any that I can think of. I don't enjoy using a cartridge that is impractical for the task and I don't choose one that is too little or way too much horsepower for the job either. If a man has to buy over the counter ammo, it's his money but doesn't make much sense to pay more for oddball ammo and drive all over just to find it and when you do find it they only have one or two choices.

So I guess I'm just a practical person. I really like the 7mm-08/270/280 bullet size/wt/vel range for the kind of whitetail hunting I do. They all have shown out with 140gr-160gr bullets in my experience but I rarely load anymore so I buy shelf ammo and I see 270win ammo 5 to 1 in my neck of the woods and that's why I usually hunt with it.

Everybody needs to pick what suits them best with whatever criteria they so choose with their kind of hunting. With most of the common cartridges there's no one best cartridge out there, just what each person prefers.
 
Maybe they like hunting so much they want to put hunting for ammo in the same category as hunting for game. Kidding, to each his own.
 
In MY testing of big game bullets for bigger big game, the 7mm 175NP out performed anything in .277" I could buy...

With todays bullets things may be different, but I still prefer NP's for all of my big game hunting... SO, I'll stand by my original statement.

I'm a hunter, not a sniper, so I don't care about long range shooting...

DM

I don't exactly know your testing criteria but yes, there are lots of good bullet designs out there for bigger game. I too like the NP and favor the 160gr. Shoots flat, hits hard, and drives deep.

A 175gr NP may do a little better, I'm certain I wouldn't be able to see the difference between the two. The 160gr shoots a little flatter in my hunting range with less recoil and hits with pretty equal energy. Maybe the 175gr holds together better? The 160gr has done it's job thusfar.
 
I love all the great caliber/cartridge debates. Mainly just for debate though, paper ballistics and whatnot. Any firearm related topic is fun to discuss, even ad nauseum.

The pure and simple truth in my eyes is most everyone has their preference reguardless of the facts. Most come up with their "cartridge of choice" because of their 1st gun or what their daddy swore by or because some annoying person always bragged about a different cartridge etc. Then they try to look up facts to justify this one cartridge as "the one" after already making their decision.

So many irrational dislikes of cartridge or calibers and a Mt of opinion goes into these choices and debates and being that each of us have the right to choose based on whatever criteria we so choose, we are always correct on our choice. Wether that's paper performance or just to be different.

I personally am a fan of all cartridges to a certain extent and I'm fairly unbiased. I don't "hate" any that I can think of. I don't enjoy using a cartridge that is impractical for the task and I don't choose one that is too little or way too much horsepower for the job either. If a man has to buy over the counter ammo, it's his money but doesn't make much sense to pay more for oddball ammo and drive all over just to find it and when you do find it they only have one or two choices.

So I guess I'm just a practical person. I really like the 7mm-08/270/280 bullet size/wt/vel range for the kind of whitetail hunting I do. They all have shown out with 140gr-160gr bullets in my experience but I rarely load anymore so I buy shelf ammo and I see 270win ammo 5 to 1 in my neck of the woods and that's why I usually hunt with it.

Everybody needs to pick what suits them best with whatever criteria they so choose with their kind of hunting. With most of the common cartridges there's no one best cartridge out there, just what each person prefers.

Not being contrary here at all. But Woodleigh makes a 180 Gr .277 bullet.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...-180-grain-weldcore-protected-point-box-of-50
 
I am a 7-08 shooter. I think it depends. I think my choice is an ideal deer cartridge. But for all practical purposes a .308 will do the same thing within 400 yards with a little more recoil and drop. I think the same is true in 30-06 vs 280. For most purposes they are the same but the .280 is a little more ideal for up to Elk size game. Less recoil, a bit flatter shooting. You will have to put up with more searching for ammo and less cartridge for zombi bears and giant moose.
 
There are good reasons to prefer a 280 over 30-06.

The felt recoil and recoil velocity of a 280 and a 30-06 for both 8 lbs guns, both 150 grain bullets, both at 2900 fps are identical. Therefore no benefit exists of one over the other exist for range practice.

However, compare the relative ballistic coefficients/sectional densities: 30-06; 387/226; 280: 456/266. Those are significant numbers. 280 rounds are far more efficient.

280 shots carry farther, wind drift less, and penetrate more deeply.

Also, because target shooters like 7mm ballistics, 280 Rem ammo is generally manufactured to high and consistent standards. Target shooters never use 270 caliber. This means that factory ammo is a simple and easy option compared to, for example, 270 ammo which has a BAD reputation for factory quality controls.

Also, the .280 Rem deer rifle has a definite super-coolness factor unlike Grampa's old stodgy '06.
 
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