Would anybody care for single stack P-10?

[TGT]

I have been waiting patiently for years now for somebody to make a really short gripped .45
The Para Carry, Colt Officers Model, and Kimber Ultra Carry don't quite offer as short a grip as the model P-10 . Or for that matter, the old Detonics grip was shorter too.
What I would really like, is the Para Ordinance P-10 (or the new "Wart Hog") to be made in a single stack gun.

Anybody else out there like to see a single stack P-10?

 

[TGT]

Well, a month later and no reply that anybody else cares for 3 finger length grip on a concealable 45?

Well, I guess that answers that. It also answers why the manufacturers don't see fit to make one..... I'm the only nut who wants it!

 

[Kramer Krazy]

And, just how many rounds would this carry piece be able to hold? I like the Warthog, but have always preferred Colt products. I like my Colt Officers ACP, but, sometimes wish it held more rounds than it does......it's pretty concealable on my 6'1" 245lbs frame with a large shirt. For a really small, concealable 45ACP, single stack (but DOA), I have an AMT Backup 45ACP. It is not a range gun.....it'll hurt your hands in a hurry.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

Seems as though, if it were a single stack, it wouldn't be "-10." What is to be achieved?

 

[Jehzsa]

P5-45 doesn't sound right. Might be confused with a new Walther product. :banghead:

 

[Zundfolge]

Well the C6-45 (not just called the "Carry" model)is a single stack (but its got their LDA action instead of the standard 1911 single action).

Edit
Upon further inspection it appears the P10 IS shorter then the C6.
Warthog(P10) vs C6 (Carry)

 

[MICHAEL T]

I like the 10+1 of the P-10, now Warthog or the Llama minimax sub-compact clone. I have both and fine them easy to carry and shoot. A skinney one might hold 4 in mag giving up to much. I'll stay with the larger frame.

 

[Johnny Guest]

Well, there was the Colt Officers ACP

Some wandering observations . . .

The OACP arrived with a six-shot magazine, because the frame was one round shorrter than the standard Colt's O-frame. Later on, both the standard seven shot mag body and the shorter one benefitted (?) from the advent of the Shooting Star type follower. Point is, the OACP frame WAS shorter.

In general, the pistols with the shorter frames tend to be made in much shorter barrel and slide lengths, with attendant problems in timing and reliability. I count myself very lucky to have a lightewight OACP which functions consistently. In general, anything much shorter than the Commander length (4-1/4") barrel are pretty finicky. Kimber has produced some 4" guns that work most of the time, but I have no personal experience with the others.

For my own use, I am astisfied with the standard Commander dimensions. The butt length is, indeed, more of a factor in concealment than slide length. Colt produced a variant - - I think it was called the Concealed Carry Officers - - With a Commander slide and barrel fitted to an OACP frame. Problem ws, it looked out of proportion. Let's face it, aesthetic appeal IS a factor, and many buyers can't get past the appearence of a particular model, no matter how efficient and practical the design.

I imagine it is practical to produce a .45 autopistol with a five shot magazine. You'd still be facing reliabliity problems, going below a four-inch barrel.

Let's face it - - If one wishes the advantages of the .45 ACP cartridge, one gives up a degree of concealability. It is NOT a proper cartridge for a true pocket pistol - - Not with modern clothing designs. If one needs a true pocket pistol there are some very small ones in 9x19mm -- regardless of it's limitations, this is a decent small pistol cartridge.

Best,
Johnny

 

[21H40]

Theoretically you ought to be able to get a more than single stacked, less than double... stack and a half 45? 7 round P-10 with a narrower frame?

Nah... if you want a thin grip and 5 rounds are OK with you, get a revolver in 45.