XDE is tough to shoot.

[Milt1]

I have an XD-E and like it very much. It has a great trigger and is very accurate. I can front pocket carry it in cargo pants and draw it as quickly as one could from the belt. No problems with it for me.

 

[golden]

I agree with Cfullgraf, a longer barrel and slide will unlikely overcome harsh recoil caused by a small or narrow grip.

D.B. I have not seen anything on the gun channel. I do not watch that much television. To much time on the internet, I suppose!

But I will take it as a complement.

Jim

 

[D.B. Cooper]

I agree with Cfullgraf, a longer barrel and slide will unlikely overcome harsh recoil caused by a small or narrow grip.

D.B. I have not seen anything on the gun channel. I do not watch that much television. To much time on the internet, I suppose!

But I will take it as a complement.

Jim

It's a youtube channel, not a TV channel.

 

[Graywolf686]

I like my XDE 9mm it carries easy , shoots great and I have had no hiccups

 

[D.B. Cooper]

I have had no hiccups

You don't have the well-documented hanging up/sticking of the magazine release that allows the magazine to drop out as soon as you let of the magazine?

 

[Graywolf686]

No problems at all , my XDE 9mm has functioned flawlessly and I enjoy shooting it in both SA and DA.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

Well I must be getting the hang of it.

I shot a 16 target string tonight in 40 seconds with only one miss. (The double action first shot LOL)

Of course, the guy ahead of me shot the same course in 13 seconds and the guy after me shot it in 16 second so...

 

[CDMCKY]

I've been carrying (IWB) a XD-9 SC for a while, and I really like it. I tried the
XD-E and didn't like it much. I carried 1911's (IWB, Cond. 1) for many years,
so I like single action pistols, which made the XD-9 an easy choice. It took
a while for me to get comfortable with the striker system, but with the grip
safety there is small chance to have a ND while holstering, if you keep your
thumb on the back of the slide; I like that, and 13+1 of HST 147 gr +P is a
excellent round for SD with the XD-9.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

No problems at all , my XDE 9mm has functioned flawlessly and I enjoy shooting it in both SA and DA.

Well mine is going back to Springfield tomorrow. Last Friday, the same problem (mag release sticks and mag falls out) happened again. I slammed the heck out of it to get it to stay. Today, it worked fine. But in the intervening week, I contact the company and they sent me a fed ex shipping label, so I'm going to send it in. I expect they will say "could not duplicate problem" and return it.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

I'm less and less thrilled (I was never "thrilled") with this gun. I generally can't hit crap with it beyond about 10-12 feet. Last week I fired 19 rounds at a 10" plate and never touched it.

That said, this gun sure is light and easy to carry. So is the ammo, too.

 

[rpenmanparker]

I'm less and less thrilled (I was never "thrilled") with this gun. I generally can't hit crap with it beyond about 10-12 feet. Last week I fired 19 rounds at a 10" plate and never touched it.

That said, this gun sure is light and easy to carry. So is the ammo, too.

DB, as I recall you have mentioned more than once your inability to hit what you are aiming at. I know how that feels. I can’t shoot revolvers well at all, even single action ones. When my only gun was a Ruger Security Six, I was convinced I would never be able to shoot well. Then I bought an SR9 and things started looking up. When I put a red dot on it, suddenly I was hitting the 10 ring from 30 feet consistently. And when I bought a 9mm 1911 with a red dot, man I started feeling like Annie Oakley. Now I will only buy guns of the type that I shoot best. Point is not that you need to do what I do. But you do need to find your gun shooting solution. I’m sure there is a gun you can shoot really well. You have to find that and make that TYPE the basis of your collection. No sense having a bug out gun that you can’t shoot no matter how light and easy to carry. Those things are way down the important features list. Being able to hit the target is right on top.

 

[skeeterfogger]

I may not like this 9mm Springfield Armory XDE I just bought a few weeks ago. It's kind of a tough gun to shoot well with. Let me preface all of this by saying that I'm transitioning from a Ruger Redhawk revolver, and the only other semi-auto I have any experience at all with is the 92FS.

What I like about the XDE:

Controls and ergonomics. I didn't at first, but they grew on me quick. I really like the safety. It has all the functions of a 92FS, plus the ability to go cocked and locked like a 1911, which I would never do. I can manipulate everything, even in gloved hands at 9˚F.

What I don't like:

The magazine catch often gets hung all the way to one side (it's ambidextrous) and won't retain the magazine. This is well documented on the u tubes. I have no idea what do about it.

The double-action first shot trigger is horrendous. I swear, the DA trigger on my Redhawk is lighter and smoother. (My Redhawk has just about 3k rounds though it.) The single-action trigger is pretty darn heavy and stiff, too, but I can do as good with it as I can with my DA revolver. (Only, with the XDE I can do it faster.)

Is there anything to be done with that trigger?

Recoil and muzzle flash. This gun is actually harder to shoot than my Redhawk with 44 specials. ore recoil, more muzzle jump, more flash...louder... I suspect some of that has to with the 3" barrel and 25oz weight.

So I'm not real sold on this gun, yet, but, I only have about 200 rounds of 115 grn ball through it. I feel like I'll ultimately end up with a 92FS. Or back to a revolver.

I had an XD9, had. Could not get comfortable with it at all. Academy had a buy one Taurus 211 get Heritage 22 free. Sold the 22 for 100 so get 211 for 189. Worth the try. Like the 211 way better plus mags available upto 12 rnd and no grip extenders. Put laser on it and it's great.

 

[Kookla]

I'm less and less thrilled (I was never "thrilled") with this gun. I generally can't hit crap with it beyond about 10-12 feet. Last week I fired 19 rounds at a 10" plate and never touched it.

That said, this gun sure is light and easy to carry. So is the ammo, too.

I look at things this way- you can grin and bear it and shoot it until you figure out how to make the best of it - just time, effort and well, money. Or you can find one that has the features you're looking for and does thrill you. There are so many different pistols out there, unless circumstances dictate different, you should be able to find one that makes you happy.

 

[Buzznrose]

I came to this thread late. Glad OP is starting to warm to the XDe (not my cup a tea, but we all get to choose what we like...).

If the Springy ends up not working out, and I was looking for that size DA gun in .45 ACP, probably have to go with the HK. It’s a great gun...

https://hk-usa.com/hk-models/hk45-compact/

Too bad CZ doesn’t make a P07/09 in .45, that would be the bees knees!

 

[rpenmanparker]

I think OP needs to straighten out the shooting problem before he buys any more guns. Just my opinion, but seriously, first things first.

 

[Dudedog]

Please let us know what Springfield has to say/does.
Curious if they get it taken care of.

 

[jonb32248]

I got better with mine after some time shooting. I drop the hammer and shoot double for a few mags at a time.It did help. I only have Da/sa anymore except for one g19 that was a gift, 4 in total.

 

[Dave T]

I have struggled through 4 pages of this thread and learned the following:

First, I spent my LEO career and about 15 years after retiring carrying a 1911 Colt in Condition 1. Then, because the arthritis in my shooting hand made the 1911 painful, I switched to 45 ACP Glocks (G21, G30, G36). Yes, those dreaded "striker fired" guns. According to virtually all I've read here, both of my handgun choices are so un-safe I probably shouldn't have been allowed near people...badge or no badge.

The second thing I've learned from this thread is: if you can't hit what you are shooting at you are in no position to judge the effectiveness of any handgun, be it this XDE the thread is about, or any other. Learn to shoot. Learn what I suspect is the OP's real problem - trigger control. Then and only then can you decide what handgun (revolver or semi auto) is suitable for you.

Dave

 

[D.B. Cooper]

DB, as I recall you have mentioned more than once your inability to hit what you are aiming at. I know how that feels. I can’t shoot revolvers well at all, even single action ones. When my only gun was a Ruger Security Six, I was convinced I would never be able to shoot well. Then I bought an SR9 and things started looking up. When I put a red dot on it, suddenly I was hitting the 10 ring from 30 feet consistently. And when I bought a 9mm 1911 with a red dot, man I started feeling like Annie Oakley. Now I will only buy guns of the type that I shoot best. Point is not that you need to do what I do. But you do need to find your gun shooting solution. I’m sure there is a gun you can shoot really well. You have to find that and make that TYPE the basis of your collection. No sense having a bug out gun that you can’t shoot no matter how light and easy to carry. Those things are way down the important features list. Being able to hit the target is right on top.

This is probably one of your best posts right here.

I’m sure there is a gun you can shoot really well. You have to find that and make that TYPE the basis of your collection.

There is; it's called a bolt action rifle.

Those things are way down the important features list. Being able to hit the target is right on top.

Agreed. Spot on.

 

[readyeddy]

I’ve always struggled with striker fired triggers. They typically have some stacking and over travel. Made lots of modifications to my Glock triggers but found very light triggers could lead to unreliable ignition.

Best advice I’ve found so far are Jerry Miculek and Rob Leatham videos. They generally recommend isosceles stance, gripping the gun tight, and locking the wrists. Seems like isosceles promotes a tighter grip than Weaver stance. I grew up with Weaver and it worked with 1911’s, but not so much when a tight grip is needed.

This may not be the case for those with large strong hands, but I got small hands and it helped me. That and lots of dry firing.

 

[Coal Dragger]

I'm less and less thrilled (I was never "thrilled") with this gun. I generally can't hit crap with it beyond about 10-12 feet. Last week I fired 19 rounds at a 10" plate and never touched it.

That said, this gun sure is light and easy to carry. So is the ammo, too.

Sounds like you are simply bad at basic marksmanship. Take some lessons. Stop blaming your equipment.

 

[CDMCKY]

When I switched to a XD9 Sub Compact CCW it took me a few rounds to work the
trigger right, (after carrying 1911's for decades) and it's all about practice, baby...

 

[DWrso]

I have Glock, as striker fired pistol and like it a lot. I also use it as ccw when I want to. I also have hammer pistols like CZ P07 which I also like a lot. It is also a good ccw. I have an XDE that I use for ccw when I want. I also have a 1911 (RIA tactical) that is carry when I want. All of them are good range guns in my opinion. I practice with all of them and others and shoot them pretty well. Point is it is what ever you like and no one pistol is better for ... than another. The key is to practice, practice, and practice. I really get tired of people telling other they are wrong for liking a particular pistol. Also, as a range officer and trainer, I tell people to shoot the pistol (s) that they are comfortable with. Regarding safety, the shooter controls that not the gun.

 

[DWrso]

I may not like this 9mm Springfield Armory XDE I just bought a few weeks ago. It's kind of a tough gun to shoot well with. Let me preface all of this by saying that I'm transitioning from a Ruger Redhawk revolver, and the only other semi-auto I have any experience at all with is the 92FS.

What I like about the XDE:

Controls and ergonomics. I didn't at first, but they grew on me quick. I really like the safety. It has all the functions of a 92FS, plus the ability to go cocked and locked like a 1911, which I would never do. I can manipulate everything, even in gloved hands at 9˚F.

What I don't like:

The magazine catch often gets hung all the way to one side (it's ambidextrous) and won't retain the magazine. This is well documented on the u tubes. I have no idea what do about it.

The double-action first shot trigger is horrendous. I swear, the DA trigger on my Redhawk is lighter and smoother. (My Redhawk has just about 3k rounds though it.) The single-action trigger is pretty darn heavy and stiff, too, but I can do as good with it as I can with my DA revolver. (Only, with the XDE I can do it faster.)

Is there anything to be done with that trigger?

Recoil and muzzle flash. This gun is actually harder to shoot than my Redhawk with 44 specials. ore recoil, more muzzle jump, more flash...louder... I suspect some of that has to with the 3" barrel and 25oz weight.

So I'm not real sold on this gun, yet, but, I only have about 200 rounds of 115 grn ball through it. I feel like I'll ultimately end up with a 92FS. Or back to a revolver.

It is I big change going from the revolver to XDE. I am OK with the trigger (now) but I did struggle with the single stack aspect of the XDE. I added Talon grips and practice. My accuracy is not quite as good as with Larger pistols but not far away. I admit I did have to force it in the beginning but I am glad I did. I honestly enjoy shooting the XDE and it is a pleasure to carry.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

When I switched to a XD9 Sub Compact CCW it took me a few rounds to work the
trigger right, (after carrying 1911's for decades) and it's all about practice, baby...

Define "a few rounds." I've already shot ... well, close to a thousand, not quite.