Yet another newbie's questions

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Simon Yu

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Well, not quite a complete newbie now at least.

Finally had a small class on shotguns yesterday after having spent a good amount of time reading stuff. Had so much fun with an 870 that I got one myself, a synthetic express with a 28 inch barrel. Also picked up an 18 inch barrel as well for future use as a home defense gun. Also a few other things like dummy rounds, a case, and an R3 recoil pad.

Now, in my mixture of giddiness and tiredness (it was a morning class and I'm a night owl student) I managed to forget to pick up cleaning supplies. While I have supplies to clean my .22 handgun (the 870 is only my second gun as a matter of practicality due to MD restrictions/laws), obviously I need a new cleaning rod and patches and possibly other stuff. I could use some advice in this area, especially on what solvents should be picked up and used where, good lubricants, rust inhibitors (my .22 is stainless so I haven't had to deal with this part much), etc. While I do have some mineral spirit based rust inhibitor I use for my knife collection, I've seen no mention of anyone using similar on guns so I'm hesitant to use it.

I also obviously want to put on the recoil pad I picked up. I'm guessing that I'll be taking a screw driver, sticking it through the holes I see in the stock pad until it catches and removing the screws, then doing the same kind of thing but in reverse for the pad until the screws pop under the outer layer? And is it really a good idea to "lube" the screwdriver with water like the directions say?

I also have questions on choke tubes. I understand their concept well enough, I just can't make heads or tails of Remington's naming system yet. First, does the 18 inch "Police" barrel take/require choke tubes? When I looked down the barrel, I didn't see anything for an add on to catch onto but I might have not looked hard enough (heck, possibly down the wrong end). I certainly wouldn't mind and probably would prefer a full cylinder for it, I just want to make sure given the warnings about not using barrels meant for choke tubes without them.

On a related note, what's a good way to store the barrel I'm not using?

I'm also guessing that the "Modified Rem Choke" the 28 inch barrel comes with is Remington's way of saying modified choke? Recommendations on other chokes to pick up would be welcome if you have any after finishing reading this.

Finally, there's the question of "well now what do I do?" that enters the minds of newer gun owners. Clay games seemed like the way to get to know the gun (and have fun over winter break) and the instructors agreed with that view, but you're listening to someone that can't even remember the differences between trap and skeet right now (at least I get sporting clays though!). Since the class was given a home defense slant for shotgun newbies and not a traditional course, I know my form probably leaves much to be desired too (though at least it was enough to not leave bruises on my shoulder). I'm not sure if I should hit a trap/skeet/clay range that offers instructions first or spent time at a more traditional range firing at paper. Since some of you are trapped in this state, feel free to get very specific in recommendations (I live in the Rockville area but I'm still at school in Baltimore for a few more days). I do have a list of ranges in the state and some recommendations from the folks at Atlantic Guns, but more in depth descriptions are welcome.

All advice/information/jokes are appreciated.
 
I'd try to have all 5 major chokes for any single barrel gun of mine. Cylinder (or skeet) is the most open, followed by Improved Cylinder, Modified, Improved Modified, and Full. This will cover you for almost all clay games.

Get a elcheapo cleaning kit with rod, brush, patch jag, patches, and solvent. Relube surfaces lightly after cleaning.

I'd trust the guys at Atlantic, I shopped there in the 80's when I lived in Maryland. Is Bill Schneider still there?
 
Atlantic's good. You've lots of choices for cleaning stuff, none of it bad.

The most important cleaning aid there is, is Elbow Grease.

Hoppe's #9 is a classic solvent. Remoil, SLIP 2000, Breakfree CLP and plain old 30 WT are good lubes that also protect.

Once I get past all this $%^&*(OT, maybe you'll meet me at PGC and we'll shoot a bit. Or go on over by yourself. It's pretty newbie-friendly.

Lube the screwdriver. Trust me.

Get an open choke tube, either IC, Cylinder or Skeet and a tight one like Full. You can split hairs but these will do the job.

Your short barrel has a fixed choke,no tubes.Chances are it's a light Improved Cylinder.

HTH....
 
Tjeras, not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure a Bill did sign off on the paperwork.

Dave, I'll probably wind up looking at the PGC place soon (still have to take care of some stuff at the dorm, such as cleaning it up before I head back home to mess that place up), it was recommended by the store as well. Is ammo sold there, or should I stock up beforehand when I go shopping for cleaning supplies?

SSN, searches I do for Armor All turn up car care products. I have the feeling I might be missing a brand name here . . .
 
They sell reasonably priced ammo. PGC is a county facility and doesn't operate on a profit motive. Prices are fair and similar to the mail order places like Cheaper Than Dirt, Ammoman, etc.

The only downside to PGC is a rule they have. Barrels must be at least 23" long. Leave shorty at home...
 
Still open to ideas on how to store the barrel not in use. I doubt the 28 inch barrel will fit in the 18 incher's box and don't want to let either get a buildup of dust when school gets busy.
 
Plastic wrap. Two layers. Store vertically. Or, just put it in hard gun case with the gun.
 
car care product....

that's the stuff....

cleans anything vinyl or rubbery....

use it on your dash and then squirt some on the shaft of your phillips head and it will turn slick as butter when tightening the screw on your recoil pad.

a dry screw driver shaft will tend to bind as it goes deeper into the tight rubber hole.......you'll still get the job done.....but your forearms will thank you for using the armor all.
 
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