Youth stabs intruder to death

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He does need to be watched closely

he might join the Marines....:D

All joking aside I am sure he will get all of the support and help he needs from his happily alive family.
 
Unless you're a sociopath, a member of the Mongol horde or grew up in a truly depraved part of the criminal subculture killing a person is a really significant act.

Significant, yes. Needing of special attention, not necessarily. It is all a matter
of the individual, their values and surrounding values, and how they view the
specific situation itself. By no means is it necessary for a person to be a warmongering
sociopath or criminal to be relatively unaffected.

If he needs counseling then he should get it. But the more people tell him he
"needs" it or that the event was something traumatic the more he may start to
believe it and react in they way others are expecting him to.
 
Certainly. If he begins having problems he needs someone to work them out with. The problems may begin weeks or months later. If he doesn't have problems he doesn't need help and should be left alone. I hope that the police or someone else with some experience inthese matters clues him and his family in to what to watch for. Every case is different. I'm more interested in his welfare than the agendas of the bloodthirsty or the therapy crazed and hope that he gets what is best for him rather than whatever insecurities and rhetoric outsiders decide to project on him.

Some people are natural gunsels. Others' brains are simply set up so that they will be traumatized forever by taking life. Most of us are somewhere in between. The most important things are the actual needs of the young man and his family whatever they turn out to be.
 
I guess I was raised a member of a mongel horde

or at least in the South. I can honestly say that if someone threatened me or my family with immediate death that I would suffer absolutely no remorse or psychic damage from having removed that person from this Earth. I am not a sociopath I just don't feel compassion for murderers and rapists they are vermin.
 
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Maybe. At least that's what you think you would do based on your self-image. The reality is usually much different than the fantasy.
 
Nice.

i would do that too.

But i would stab the intruder just below the armpit so i get into the heart/lung area in one stab.

Or i would just cut his throat. I dont think i would be able to deal with a man bleeding to death out of his throat, all the gargling and such.
 
Wolves. Sheep. Sheepdogs. And something else...

After glossing over the article, I came back to THR to read the commentary. That's when I read about the deceased's sister posting, and I went back to read the comments. I've seen this kind of commentary a thousand times, but I finally recognized and named something that never registered.

We speak of "sheep". Sheeple-people so in denial of reality, of human nature, that they are incapable of self-defense until it is too late, if at all.

We speak of "wolves", carnivores who prey on the sheep, criminals who look for the weak (although "wolf" is too high a compliment, since few criminals can really work together as a wolfpack does).

And we speak of "sheepdogs", tireless, but often lonely, defenders of the sheep, who really can't help what they are, because the illusion of safety in modern society is so pervasive.

But as I read the comments to the story on the newspaper's site, and compared the one's leading up to the sister's, and the ones after it, I thought of other animals:

Jackals.

Jackals don't make the kill. They just wait until the real predator finishes filling his belly, then slink in, wallow in the blood, and eat the scraps, all the while bragging about the zebra they would've gotten, if they'd only been there. Laughing scavengers before the sister shows up, and then they scatter, leaving a few intelligent, thinking people to debate the issue.


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Nice.

i would do that too.

But i would stab the intruder just below the armpit so i get into the heart/lung area in one stab.

Or i would just cut his throat. I dont think i would be able to deal with a man bleeding to death out of his throat, all the gargling and such.


One of the things I like so much about THR is the low ratio of jackals. There are still a few here, as The Deer "Hunter" illustrates, but I noticed it only because it's such a Scavenger thing to say.

I feel bad for both families, the sister, the 17 yo. I recognize that under the worst circumstances there was a good outcome (only one person died, and that was the attacker), but only the jackals, the faceless jeers in the mob, would celebrate it.
 
The sheriff said evidence was found suggesting the home invasion was pre-planned.

"We don't know if it was retaliation or a robbery," Gower said. "We may never know."

Bravo sierra. No way was it robbery. Every one of them was going to die, no question about it. I celebrate the fact that a family is alive now that would have been DOA otherwise. The fellow who was tying them down in preparation deserved far worse than a fairly quick death from shock.
 
Re: Boy needs Counseling

Has anyone here had to cap someone? Seen blood spurting out of their mouths as they try to mumble something, their face turning progressively grey? Seen them stare with their eyes virtually popping out of their head in desperation as their body stiffens in the throws of death, as if some great beast is on their chest pulling their soul out of them??

Yeah, you will need counseling. Some instances make it easier than others, but we do not live in a society today where it is easy to cap someone. You are forced to relive the terrible incident in enquiry after enquiry. Your friends act funny around you and next thing you know you start thinking that you did something you shouldn't have done. There were other choices, right? There had to be something else you could have done, isn't there? Then you begin to wonder if it wasn't some crazy bloodlust that made you do it.

Soon the only person you are talking to is Jack Daniels...

It has nothing to do with mental toughness, but everything to do with the illusion in which we live. In the old west, kill or be killed. No problem. Here, people are dying by the millions and we all sit on our arses watching Jerry Springer thinking that tomorrow will come and not giving a thought to the jungle that surrounds us. Acting as if we are all John Wayne and when the moment of truth comes, we will do our duty, even though we are dimly aware of the repercussions.

It is important to understand.

Anyone that talks about killing someone, yes even in defense or in battle, cavalierly is a fool.
 
Unfortunate incident, but when it comes down to the life of an intruder of the life of my family or me, the intruder will always lose. Hopefully the kid will turn out OK.

Living in my parents basement I have my fathers Navy knife by my bed, a folding knife in my desk drawer, a Bowie knife over the basement door and even a knife taped to the back of the toilet water tank. I'm no more than 15 feet away from a knife when i'm in the basement. I'll be prepared even if i'm sitting in the bathroom.
 
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