yukon men

[cammogunner]

Hey guys I was watching tv the other night and saw this show called yukon men it is pretty cool but that's beside the point. What my question is on the show they use ar-15 type rifles for everything from bears to wolfs and though I do not know much about ar's do they make them with that kind of power

 

[Sam1911]

Hard to say what the specifics of those rifles you saw in the show were. There's no shortage of examples of people all over the world using common military arms (even pretty small rounds like 5.56 and 7.62x39) to take, hunt, poach, or wound animals.

There are AR-15s set up to shoot a number of larger caliber cartridges (.458 SOCOM, .300 Blackout, 6.8 SPC, .500 Beowulf, etc.) and then there are the AR-10 variants that can shoot 7.62/.308, .243, .260, or other medium-length rounds.

Few would be exactly the best medicine for big bears, but they'll kill if placed in the right spot.

 

[Inebriated]

^ Don't forget the .50 BMG uppers for the AR

 

[rule303]

Most of the animals they are pursuing with AR's on the show are furbearers, so I would imagine the .223 is a good choice for decent range, easy handling, and minimal pelt damage. When hunting big game, it is almost always a scoped bolt gun.

 

[USAF_Vet]

I've seen the show, and at least one person specifically cited their AR was chambered for 5.56.

Seen shotguns, bolt actions and a few wheel guns on the show as well.

 

[rdhood]

This is my "go-to" show when someone makes the inane remark: "people don't use ar-15 for hunting" or "ar-15 is only good for killing people".

Watch the show, and there you will see Americans who depend on hunting and guns for survival using AR-15s to hunt game. Last season... or a couple ago... they showed one of the characters using an AR-type rifle to bring down a moose. I thought for sure that it most be a .308, but I couldn't tell.

Anyway, the show directly contradicts all of the propaganda of the left when it comes to utilizing the AR-15 as a hunting rifle. It is a real life example that flies in the face of all of the "common sense" and "reasoned" arguments of the left.

Predator in Tanana Alaska? Everyone has their guns at arms length until someone takes it out. Coyote or hog in south Atlanta, GA? The politicians and anti-gun crowds wring their hands about what to do, pass the buck, and generally react with fear. But NOOOOOO, don't let a hunter quickly solve the problem. So people hide out in their houses for a week until someone finally hires a trapper to remove said animal.

 

[cammogunner]

yea very well said rd i fully agree.however with all this talk of ar's i think i need one now oh well i supose i could have room for one more

 

[ridgerunner1965]

i used to read a lot of books on the artic,alaska and the natives and their way of life.

even in the 50's, 60's and 70's it was common for the natives to hunt with small calibers for bigger game.22 hornet and 223, 30 30 etc. for polar bear, seal, walrus and caribou. i even read a article once about how to kill a moose with a 22 lr. it seemed you chose a quartering away shot and slipped the bullet in behind the last rib into the lungs.then you simply trailed the moose until it died.

polar bear were often bayed by a pack of sled dogs so a good head shot with a smaller round was enough to finish them. walrus and seal would float for a bit when dead and could be harpooned and drug to shore.caribou were often on the tundra and would have to run for several mile before you could no longer see them.


subsistence hunters do not often have the same empathy for a game animal that a sportsman does.to them its either a pile of meat to be harvested as cheaply as possible or a predator that needs to go with whatever yu have at hand. they learned this from their fathers just as we learned what we have from out fathers.

 

[torqem]

The Innuit got by just fine with the .22 magnum rimfire, which has 1/3rd the power of a 223 carbine. It's all a question of how good a hunter you are, how much of a hurry you are in, whether or not the animal has to be a trophy male, if you abide by the rules and mores of sport hunting. Obviously, bow hunters score all the time, even under conditions of fair chase. Since that almost always means 30 yds and less, of course the critter could have been brained with a 223 softpoint.

 

[Sam1911]

cammogunner, you may find it really -- REALLY -- interesting to look up the threads started by one of our long time members, Caribou.

He lives up in Alaska with his family and subsistence hunts. His group prefers the Mosin-Nagant in 7.62x54R, but considering the polar bears, sea mammals, and all kinds of other game they take with it, you can certainly see the appeal of a universal weapon in a modest cartridge that will just do the job if you know what you're about.

Caribou is also featured on the "Life Below Zero" show recently.

 

[torqem]

I had an Innuit tell me that Walruses and seals sink, so they had to be brain shot. Otherwise, they make it to the water. Especially seals sunning themselves on the ice. A walrus feeds the entire village for months. So the loss of one is a horrible disaster. He used a sort of portable stand, made of white muslim sheet, which he held in front of him as he crawled, dressed in white. up to 200 yds or so, from where he would use his bipod and scoped bolt action to brain them.

 

[bullseyebob47]

same as in this show there is another alaskan show with an ar15 and it comes with the malfunctions/excuses. get sks.

 

[buck460XVR]

I have noticed in some of those "Alaskan" shows, that the age and technology of the firearms shown, gets more and more modern/expensive as the show gets renewed for another season.

 

[cammogunner]

yes i have noticed that to buck i suppose if i had my own tv show and the check to come with it i would upgrade to. and i have heard that the sks is a little better than the ar. i just found it CRAZY that in this one part the kid took a caribou with his ar and it may have been me but it did not seem close range. i find it odd how some would consider a 223 a yote or varmint gun and some would use it on caribou but i aint dogin either method just thinkin out loud