CraigC
Sixgun Nut
I wouldn't hesitate to take anything with the .45-70 but for the really big stuff, would forego the cast bullets in favor of the Grizzly Punch bullet.
Smaller meplat on the buster might make the feeding in the lever action a little smoother. Ill probably order some when dividends get here.
When I’m in bear country whether hunting them or not, you should also be prepared for defending against them. For those reasons a 30-06 will kill very effectively on a hunt, but I prefer my 375h&h for both fast kills when hunting or with defense. I don’t hunt bear, but I’d owe it to the animal to put it down immediately.
As to the recommendations on slugs, I know they are used but for that “one shot stop” I don’t think the sectional density is enough to rely on. After all we are talking about the best tool for the job. 375h&h with 300gr is the perfect all around in my opinion for bear country.
I agree, that’s why I’m not suggesting a HPBT 6mm bullet with a .313 sectional density. The 375 with its normal round nosed bullets are effective on game to say the least, and have a high sectional density still. And while not as easy to tote as a handgun, there is a lot more power there.I think sectional density is a poor determinant of lethality. The nose profile of the bullet will determine wound channel size, depth of penetration, and the stability of the projectile in flesh. If you are seeking a one-shot stop, CNS is your target irrespective of the type of firearm you are pressing into service. I prefer handguns, but for most people, a long gun is easier to shoot well.
I agree, that’s why I’m not suggesting a HPBT 6mm bullet with a .313 sectional density. The 375 with its normal round nosed bullets are effective on game to say the least, and have a high sectional density still. And while not as easy to tote as a handgun, there is a lot more power there.
It's not. They're way too light for their very large diameter to penetrate well. Even the Brenneke Black Magic is very low. They rely mostly on myth & legend. Fosters have an SD less than that of a round ball, to put things in perspective. So yes, if you have only one shot, you're better off with a Brown Bess than a 12ga pump with Foster slugs.As to the recommendations on slugs, I know they are used but for that “one shot stop” I don’t think the sectional density is enough to rely on.
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Eight Rounds of 168 gr. Barnes TSX.
(and a spare clip or two)
I'd like a heavier bullet than that.
I have penetrated plenty well enough with barnes 168’s from a 30/06 and a 308. Wouldnt hesitate to use either with a 168 tsx on animals larger than brown bears. Saw a 13 year old girl kill a waterbuff with that same load in texas once. Took one shot
Glock 20 10mm for a handgun. Or .308+ on a rifle.
I had a giant revolver. Once you need a chest rig you end up thinking *** - this is 70% of a rifle but not one.
G20 or big rifle/12 gauge