Hammer059
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RMc, no offense but is that a serious question? Why would the smack be to the face? It was to the shoulder, but I guess a more accurate description would be a "thump". I had it squeezed tightly in the correct shoulder position.
NEF/H&R Single-Shot 12ga
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alexander45
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Some people get cheek slap from some higher recoiling guns (seems to depend on the model more than the caliber)
evan price
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I've got an H&R Topper 158 cut down to 19.5" that I use with 2.75" Winchester Super-X 1-oz slugs for perforating fuel tanks in junk cars. It kicks pretty good but does the job.
Funny, I would have thought that to be extremely dangerous! Must be my Hollywood based education
Yes indeed a serious question. I have found the NEF stock to have too high a comb for comfortable shooting - hurting far more than anything the hard buttplate dished out to the shoulder.
Lowering the comb and sloping it toward the grip solved that problem and brought the pattern down to center as well with the 22" modified choke 12 gauge factory barrel. With the "face-slap" problem solved, standard trap loads and "tactical" buckshot are reasonably pleasant to shoot in the little 5 pound single.
Carl N. Brown
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Ah! Memories of Uncle Ed's singleshot 12 ga. ... Ouch!
"Why would the smack be to the face?"
With a lot of single shot shotguns, a combination of high stock comb (cheekpiece) and low stock heel (top of buttplate) means the cheekpiece rotates up under recoil and smacks your face.
"Why would the smack be to the face?"
With a lot of single shot shotguns, a combination of high stock comb (cheekpiece) and low stock heel (top of buttplate) means the cheekpiece rotates up under recoil and smacks your face.
oneounceload
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It actually depends on you a d how the gun fits. Most of the cheap single shots do not seem to fit most folks. Too much drop or wrong pitch will cause cheek slap even with light target loads.
SlayerOfBunnies
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That's a meat gun. Loaded with 6 shot for squirrels, 7 1/2 for bunnies, or 1 steel for waterfowl, that thing will bring home supper. Not a fan of running slugs through them though.
They are fun for busting clays too but you will have a nice purple badge on your shoulder after a box or two. Wear it with pride!
They are fun for busting clays too but you will have a nice purple badge on your shoulder after a box or two. Wear it with pride!
200Apples
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I have two of these; both made in 1940. One is a 12 ga I cut down to 20" before I shot it. I laughed the first time and cried the second. hahaha... the other is an umolested 20 ga. I love these things but they are definitely hard-hitting.
I have two of these; both made in 1940. One is a 12 ga I cut down to 20" before I shot it. I laughed the first time and cried the second. hahaha... the other is an umolested 20 ga. I love these things but they are definitely hard-hitting.
That's a meat gun. Loaded with 6 shot for squirrels, 7 1/2 for bunnies, or 1 steel for waterfowl, that thing will bring home supper. Not a fan of running slugs through them though.
They are fun for busting clays too but you will have a nice purple badge on your shoulder after a box or two. Wear it with pride!
Here is an alternative:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/29...arget-ammunition-12-gauge-2-3-4-7-8-oz-8-shot
expat_alaska
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Spot-On!
Many, if not most, single-shot break-open shotguns had a 3"+ drop at the heel (had an old 5 1/4 lb Fox Sterlingworth 20 gauge with the same drop), which causes the muzzle bead to disappear when the gun is mounted. To re-acquire the bead, the tendency is to lift the cheek from the comb.
I prefer the heel drop to be no more than 2 1/2" which allows for a full view of the barrel (or rib on a SxS) and also allows the gun to recoil mostly straight back rather than up.
Most trap guns are stocked with this in mind.
Many, if not most, single-shot break-open shotguns had a 3"+ drop at the heel (had an old 5 1/4 lb Fox Sterlingworth 20 gauge with the same drop), which causes the muzzle bead to disappear when the gun is mounted. To re-acquire the bead, the tendency is to lift the cheek from the comb.
I prefer the heel drop to be no more than 2 1/2" which allows for a full view of the barrel (or rib on a SxS) and also allows the gun to recoil mostly straight back rather than up.
Most trap guns are stocked with this in mind.
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Hammer059
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Makes sense. I guess I'm lucky I don't have the cheek-slap issue with it.
My buddy came with to shoot clays this past Sunday. He had only shot clays maybe once or twice before, and not with such a light 12 gauge. He didn't know what he was in for, especially when I let him shoot a slug through it haha.
I love this thing for shooting clays though, it's a lot of fun and seems like a sturdy firearm. For the price I paid I couldn't be happier.
My buddy came with to shoot clays this past Sunday. He had only shot clays maybe once or twice before, and not with such a light 12 gauge. He didn't know what he was in for, especially when I let him shoot a slug through it haha.
I love this thing for shooting clays though, it's a lot of fun and seems like a sturdy firearm. For the price I paid I couldn't be happier.
oneounceload
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Sorry, I do not find that too funny - we see way too many folks do that to a wife or girlfriend while the idiots laugh in the background and they just turned a possible shooting buddy into someone who could care less.
I'd like to see you shoot an ATA weekend tournament with that and then see what you think..............
Arkansas Paul
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I've not shot a 12 gauge version much but I have shot a slug out of an H&R single barrel 10 gauge. My father in law still has the darn thing. It kicked pretty hard.
The hardest kicking shotgun I've shot though was my Mossberg 535 with a 3.5" turkey load. It's painful.
The hardest kicking shotgun I've shot though was my Mossberg 535 with a 3.5" turkey load. It's painful.
expat_alaska
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Just Rambling
When I was in my early prime, I worked at a skeet/trap range in Nebraska in '69-'70 at 17-18 years of age, and used to pull trap and (mostly) skeet. Before pheasant season, a lot of farmers/hunters would come in and practice shooting, many of whom would have SS break-open (and SxS) shotguns like the OP has, invariably with a large drop at the heel. Looking over their shoulders as they shot, the vast majority would shoot low and behind the target, all the while not having the proper cheek-weld.
Granted, many of these shotguns were choked mod/full, but most skeet stations are, IMO, close to what an average cornfield/milofield shot would be (21 yards over the center stake) if the birds weren't running down the rows before flushing. Then, again, the tighter choked guns would be more suited to that longer distance.
One day, on a whim, I decided to shoot a round of skeet with my Dad's 5-1/4 lb. Fox Sterlingworth 20 gauge SxS (double triggers, choked mod/full, no recoil pad, and a 2-7/8" drop at the heel) using Federal #7-1/2 field loads (low base/low brass). It was a delight to carry in the field, but after that round of skeet I never shot clays with it again. It just about beat me to death. I was glad to go back to my Rem 870 Wingmaster 12 gauge all day long.
Those were the days.
Sorry to be somewhat OT.
Jim
When I was in my early prime, I worked at a skeet/trap range in Nebraska in '69-'70 at 17-18 years of age, and used to pull trap and (mostly) skeet. Before pheasant season, a lot of farmers/hunters would come in and practice shooting, many of whom would have SS break-open (and SxS) shotguns like the OP has, invariably with a large drop at the heel. Looking over their shoulders as they shot, the vast majority would shoot low and behind the target, all the while not having the proper cheek-weld.
Granted, many of these shotguns were choked mod/full, but most skeet stations are, IMO, close to what an average cornfield/milofield shot would be (21 yards over the center stake) if the birds weren't running down the rows before flushing. Then, again, the tighter choked guns would be more suited to that longer distance.
One day, on a whim, I decided to shoot a round of skeet with my Dad's 5-1/4 lb. Fox Sterlingworth 20 gauge SxS (double triggers, choked mod/full, no recoil pad, and a 2-7/8" drop at the heel) using Federal #7-1/2 field loads (low base/low brass). It was a delight to carry in the field, but after that round of skeet I never shot clays with it again. It just about beat me to death. I was glad to go back to my Rem 870 Wingmaster 12 gauge all day long.
Those were the days.
Sorry to be somewhat OT.
Jim
xxjumbojimboxx
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I got a smirk out of this. Thumper sounds like a true friendYeah I have one, I call him "Thumper". "Thumper" is a cut down 18.5" 12ga H&R who has a hard plastic butt pad. I take "Thumper" to the range sometimes and we dare each other to shoot 3" slugs through him. He kicks hard but I still love the little dog. I also fitted a 20ga 24" barrel to the same reciever and it doesn't lighten the recoil as much as you would think. Shooting 20ga feels like shooting 12ga, and 12ga feels like 10ga
Add that to the fact you can buy all those sub-caliber inserts and you can shoot everything from .22lr to .44 magnum even blackpowder loads through it makes it a great survival gun. Right now I only own the 9mm, .22lr rifled, and .410/.45LC inserts, but you can essentially turn your single shot into the caliber of your choice with those inserts.
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