Florida SB-344 and SB300 tomorrow

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These are 2 important bills for Floridians.

SB 300 advocates OC with a CCW permit. Not perfect but a big step.

SB 344, Burden of Proof, corrects changes in Stand Your Ground and puts the burden back on the State.

Please push your Florida Reps to get these changes through.
 
Florida Senate Criminal Justice Committee hearing is tomorrow Tuesday, October 20 at 9:00AM.

Please email the committee members asking them to support SB-344 and SB300 tomorrow.

[email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]

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Please support SB-344 and SB300 tomorrow!

SB-344 will restore our states “No Duty to Retreat” laws and put the burden of proof back on the state. Which is where it should be for any and all laws in the first place!

SB-300 will allow people who are already licensed to cary concealed, carry un-concealed. This is perfectly legal in most states already. Passing this bill will prevent my wife and I from being charged with a crime in the event our concealed firearm becomes accidentally or unintentionally exposed and will also give us additional carry options in the hot florida weather.

I ask that you please support both SB-344 & SB-300.

Thank you for your consideration this matter,

Dan Forrester
 
Dan Forrester said:
Florida Senate Criminal Justice Committee hearing is tomorrow Tuesday, October 20 at 9:00AM.

Please email the committee members asking them to support SB-344 and SB300 tomorrow.


Please support SB-344 and SB300 tomorrow!

SB-344 will restore our states “No Duty to Retreat” laws and put the burden of proof back on the state. Which is where it should be for any and all laws in the first place!
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So, I haven't lived in FL in many years, but I thought "no duty to retreat" was established with the whole "stand your ground" law. What happened?
 
Links to both bills here:

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20151019/urgent-2-progun-bills-in-committee-tomorrow-tuesday-102015

oneounceload: Yea it kind of was a few years ago. But the wording was too vague and largely up to the interpretation of the officers and prosecutors. Full open Cary for license holders would fix this for good.

The Alaskan: The "no duty to retreat" AKA "stand your ground" laws have been weakened with all the Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, Michael Brown hysteria lately. The burden of proof is supposed to fall on the state to prove your guilt.

Dan
 
I can't remember the actual case where the stare decisis was established. But the gist was on the preliminary hearing you can ask for, where if your client said the right words, and the state had no contrary evidence. The criminal case had to be dismissed. Well, this case went to the Fl Supreme Court and undid that and left the burden on the defendant to show by preponderance of evidence that they had acted in self-defense. When originally the state had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant had not acted in self-defense.

The importance of this, is you don't want a prosecutor pulling lies and BS out of their backside in front of a jury that doesn't have a clue, much less any kind of formal education. Which prosecutors will do and I have seen it (calling it a justice system is complete garbage).
 
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So, I haven't lived in FL in many years, but I thought "no duty to retreat" was established with the whole "stand your ground" law. What happened?
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That's true but somewhere along the line the burden of proof was moved from the state to the individual claiming immunity. This puts it back on the state where it belongs.
 
Good news! SB 344 Passed in committee by a vote of 4-1. SB 300 passed by a vote of 3-2

Here are the details

THE FIRST BILL: SB-344, Burden of Proof by Sen. Rob Bradley was heard in the Senate Criminal Justice Committee on 10/20/2015 and PASSED by a vote of 4-1.

Voting FOR the bill were Chairman Greg Evers and Senators Rob Bradley, Jeff Brandes and Jeff Clemens. Voting AGAINST was Senator Audrey Gibson.

SB-344 Burden of Proof restores the Stand Your Ground law to the original intent of the Legislature by putting the burden of proof BACK ON THE STATE where it belongs.
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THE SECOND BILL: SB-300 Open Carry by Sen. Don Gaetz was heard in the Senate Criminal Justice Committee on 10/20/2015 and PASSED by a vote of 3-2.

Voting FOR the bill were Chairman Greg Evers and Senators Rob Bradley, and Jeff Brandes. Voting AGAINST were Senators Audrey Gibson and Jeff Clemens.

SB-300 Open Carry is a bill to allow persons with a Concealed Weapons and Firearms License to also carry openly. This will stop abuse of license holders and keep them from being charged with crime if their firearm accidentally and unintentionally becomes exposed to the ordinary sight of another person.
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A third bill,l SD-68 Campus Carry, was heard by the higher education committee. It passed by a vote of 5-3.

So, a clean sweep of all 3 bills yesterday!

THE THIRD BILL: SB-68 Campus Carry by Senator Greg Evers was heard in the Senate Higher Education Committee on 10/20/2015 and PASSED by a vote of 5-3.

Voting FOR the bill were:Chairwoman Kelli Stargel and Senators Lizabeth Benacquisto, John Legg, Joe Negron and David Simmons. Voting AGAINST the bill were Oscar Braynon, Arthenia Joyner and Maria Sachs.

SB-68 Campus Carry by CW License Holders is a bill to allow adults 21 years of age or older who have a valid Florida Concealed Weapons or Firearm License to have their rights restored so they will be able to carry their concealed firearms on college or university campuses for protection.
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Thank you 25-5! I was beginning to think it was all ether out there! :D
It is excellent news.

We just need the overwhelming Florida GOP to follow through. :what:

That's all. And Rick Scott signs off. Can it be true? Stay tuned. :scrutiny:
 
Not at all. Since 1987, OC has been gone from Florida. We have had a overwhelming GOP Legislature for a dozen or more years.

We have, IMO, the most pro gun Governor in these United States.

Yet, so far, we cannot get it through. Hopefully, this year, the Grail is reached.
 
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