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ya i nice old 1100 would be nice. i have seen those on there site, i got a few antique rifles from them before. the sxs are tempting to.
semi-auto or O/U for an all around shotgun.
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I bought this Remington 2-3/4" light weight 20ga vent 28" mod barrel from a late friends estate sale with extra 28" mod plain barrel, we had hunted small game together and he always used this 20 ga as it was light weight and he was sure death on any thing under 40 yards with it. I will not say how much it cost me as I bought more than a used shotgun that day.
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I've bought a few guns from them, also. Matter of fact, my favorite bird gun (a 6.5 lb 12 ga BRNO sxs) was bought from them. They have a couple of those left, too. Super nice hand built guns, those BRNOs. ZP-49 is the model number if you're interested. The Baikals are tough guns, and a good buy for the money. They're just sort of... well... homely. Lots of options there. Let us know what you decide on!
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I love shotguns. I’ve owned or currently own just about every major brand of semi-auto except for Tristar. I know enough people who have Tristar’s that I wouldn’t hesitate to buy one if that’s what I want.
I currently own a LS4, SA-459, Maxus, two Affinity’s, an SA-08 and four SX-3’s. I’ve owned an A-300, 3901, Vinci, 930, SA-20, 1100, Stoeger 2000 and CZ 720 in the last fifteen years. The only ones I’d stay away from are the Stoeger and 720.
Like you Troy I’m 5’10”, I’m also very stocky. I really like Beretta and Benelli but they just flat out don’t fit me so they might not fit you. Fit is king when it comes to shooting things out of the air with a shotgun. For around $500.00 you can get a Weatherby, Mossberg or Tristar semi and I believe they are excellent.
I too would run from any O/U that cost less than$1,000.00 new. At the top of the list of O/U’s I’d run from is Stoeger though I believe their semi’s are decent. I’m not a pump person because I’m the short stroke king.
I currently own a LS4, SA-459, Maxus, two Affinity’s, an SA-08 and four SX-3’s. I’ve owned an A-300, 3901, Vinci, 930, SA-20, 1100, Stoeger 2000 and CZ 720 in the last fifteen years. The only ones I’d stay away from are the Stoeger and 720.
Like you Troy I’m 5’10”, I’m also very stocky. I really like Beretta and Benelli but they just flat out don’t fit me so they might not fit you. Fit is king when it comes to shooting things out of the air with a shotgun. For around $500.00 you can get a Weatherby, Mossberg or Tristar semi and I believe they are excellent.
I too would run from any O/U that cost less than$1,000.00 new. At the top of the list of O/U’s I’d run from is Stoeger though I believe their semi’s are decent. I’m not a pump person because I’m the short stroke king.
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I would vote for an autoloader, like a classic gas gun 1100/11-87. Or one of the recent Beretta autos. Barrels can be had fairly reasonable for the Remington autos if you want one gun/multi uses. I just saw a Sam Walton Commemorative 1100 for sale with the box barely used for $700. It has the straight upland grip on it. I could care less if it's a commemorative gun, I would shoot the heck out of it. If we weren't trying to get the money together to get our first kid into college I would of bought it last week. Oh the struggles and hardship we endure to be parents. 
I personally love pump guns even though I never owned one until I was in my late 20's, had auto's and O/U's. I took to them quite quickly and never had trouble converting back and forth from auto's to O/U's and back to pumps.
I personally love pump guns even though I never owned one until I was in my late 20's, had auto's and O/U's. I took to them quite quickly and never had trouble converting back and forth from auto's to O/U's and back to pumps.
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if your just a hunter just about any shotgun may do, 2-3 boxes of shells will handle most small game hunting for one-two seasons. if you are a clay games shooter, the cost of ammo will in a few years far exceed the cost of most of the shotguns you buy. on sunday morning I shot two rounds of sporting clays(100 shells) and in the afternoon I shot three rounds of trap(75 shells) thru my 1187 20 ga shotgun, I shoot sporting clays(two rounds) on sunday morning and trap(three rounds) in the afternoon and wedsday I shoot trap(three rounds) in the afternoon and on thursday evening I shoot trap(two rounds and some times a round of skeet(not very good at it). so for the week I will shoot close to 300 rounds and I,m not a pro, just a guy who like to shoot. running two mec 9000 G,s loaders. ps the browning BT-100 in the second picture has over 45,000 shell thru it with no repairs, only being cleaned after use.
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Save about $200 more, it's worth it unless you can find something used. I'd stay with the Benelli or Beretta family, the Remington 1100 and 11-87 guns WERE solid guns in their day. But they are a 1960's design. There are better options today.
I'd love to have a quality double, my preference would be a SXS, but good ones are over my budget and I'd rather have a great semi-auto than a budget double.. My personal go-to all around shotgun is an Benelli M-1. It was one year old and lightly used when I bought it. The new M-2 had just been introduced and some guy traded it for the new version. I'm in it for about 1/2 what the new M2 sells for.
The inertia guns like my Benelli have the same recoil as a pump, or double of the same weight, but since they tend to be on the lighter end of the spectrum recoil is an issue for some people. They are ultra reliable however and will continue to function when dirty or abused better than a gas gun. I like them better for primarily hunting.
The gas guns tend to be heavier. That along with the gas system really reduces recoil below what you'd get with any other shotgun. Kept reasonably clean they are reliable enough and would be my pick for primarily clay games and would still be a good hunting gun. Probably not the best option in a muddy duck blind hunting in freezing rain though.
Pumps are mechanically more reliable, but depend on human manipulation which is often less than reliable. In the real world after you factor in human error a quality double is the most reliable followed by quality semi's with pumps bringing up the rear.
Save about $200 more, it's worth it unless you can find something used. I'd stay with the Benelli or Beretta family, the Remington 1100 and 11-87 guns WERE solid guns in their day. But they are a 1960's design. There are better options today.
I'd love to have a quality double, my preference would be a SXS, but good ones are over my budget and I'd rather have a great semi-auto than a budget double.. My personal go-to all around shotgun is an Benelli M-1. It was one year old and lightly used when I bought it. The new M-2 had just been introduced and some guy traded it for the new version. I'm in it for about 1/2 what the new M2 sells for.
The inertia guns like my Benelli have the same recoil as a pump, or double of the same weight, but since they tend to be on the lighter end of the spectrum recoil is an issue for some people. They are ultra reliable however and will continue to function when dirty or abused better than a gas gun. I like them better for primarily hunting.
The gas guns tend to be heavier. That along with the gas system really reduces recoil below what you'd get with any other shotgun. Kept reasonably clean they are reliable enough and would be my pick for primarily clay games and would still be a good hunting gun. Probably not the best option in a muddy duck blind hunting in freezing rain though.
Pumps are mechanically more reliable, but depend on human manipulation which is often less than reliable. In the real world after you factor in human error a quality double is the most reliable followed by quality semi's with pumps bringing up the rear.
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A decent semi or pump 12 gauge like a Mossberg or Remington in 3" magnum would work for ANY task that calls for a shotgun.
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Remington 1100, or 1100 Competition Synthetic if you don't want to duck hunt with it. The Competition Synthetic has an adjustable comb,you can adjust it to you.
Jeb, get back to us at 60,000. I bought my 1100 Competiton in May, and have about 2000 through it already. I know my 1100 will still be running at 60,000. Stoegers have a reputation amongst Trapshooters as not holding up over the long haul, borne out by actual experience.
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I’ve owned a Stoeger though granted not an O/U or SxS. I stand by my statement that I’d run from a Stoeger O/U, in fact I’d run real fast. I’ve handled quite a few(cuz I sold them at Cabela’s), have shot a Condor, and I think they are junk. I’m glad you like yours. This forum is a place to express experiences and opinions. I did. I own some firearms that have been bashed on this website, so what, I didn’t get upset about it and take the posters to task. Grow some thicker skin.
I have a Stoeger Cougar, it’s a great pistol IMO, but I believe their stack barrels are inferior. I love my CZ pistols and rifles, I do not care for any of their shotguns and believe the quality is subpar.
I have a Stoeger Cougar, it’s a great pistol IMO, but I believe their stack barrels are inferior. I love my CZ pistols and rifles, I do not care for any of their shotguns and believe the quality is subpar.
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One shotgun I forgot to mention, Remington V3. I like them.
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i am kinda liking the franchi, but will have to handel one. there aren't any good shops by me for shotguns anymore. maybe i should take a ride to the cabelas one day at least they have lots of guns.
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the franchi is just over the price i set. looking like good gun
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the franchi is made in the same factory as the benellis.
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Using your logic you can say the same thing about Simmons scopes as an example. But that doesn’t mean they are good scopes comparatively speaking. And neither is a Condor.
I’ve handled more than a few. I’ve also listened to customer complaints about them, most often it was about barrel regulation.
The M2000 was discontinued some time ago. Subsequent semi-auto models from Stoeger are quite a bit better than the 2000. Fit, finish and overall quality of Franchi is better than Stoeger. You don’t know what you are talking about.
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