Danny53
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Always had pretty good luck with Wolf 154 gr softpoints
Locals here in north Florida have good luck with the same round with deer and hogs, many of them shooting the SKS.
Always had pretty good luck with Wolf 154 gr softpoints
Coming from .243 land I was much more satisfied with x39 as a deer cartridge and it's cheaper to.
Honestly, after shooting a few dozen deer and pigs with my x39 and 123 SST's, the combo reminds me a lof of my old 30-30, which always seemed to kill much more quickly than it had a right to.
That is a common error. Very big difference in sectional density between a 129 gr vs 170 gr cartridge at about the same speeds. The 30-30 has proven lethal on all North American game for over 100 years. I have both. Both work fine on deer. Bear, moose, not so much.The 7.62x39mm has been compared to the .30-30 Winchester cartridge, a proven deer & hog killer for many years.
There's nothing that would prevent anyone handloading x39 with heavy, high SD bullets and pushing them within 5...10% of .30-30 velocities. My 150gr hunting loads are faster than most tried and true .30-30 deer killers. Yes, the .30-30 is more powerful and has more potential, but in reality the difference isn't huge and a game animal as "soft" as a whitetail doesn't take much to kill.That is a common error. Very big difference in sectional density between a 129 gr vs 170 gr cartridge at about the same speeds.
That is a common error. Very big difference in sectional density between a 129 gr vs 170 gr cartridge at about the same speeds. The 30-30 has proven lethal on all North American game for over 100 years. I have both. Both work fine on deer. Bear, moose, not so much.
First of all, I didn't see anyone trying to compare the 7.62x39 to the 30-30 other than to say they share the same characteristic (along with several other great calibers) of killing disproportionate to their ballistics. That's it.Two side notes here:
For one, most 30-30 velocities are reported with a 24" test barrel, while pretty much every 30-30 rifle you're going to see "in the wild" has a 20" barrel. That cuts down on the book velocities by around 100 FPS. The 30-30 will still outrun the x39 in most situations, and it can beat it easily with a longer barrel, but when you start comparing apples to apples with real hunting rifles then that gap really narrows.
For another, with all the mini bolt actions in 7.62x39 starting to proliferate, I'd love to see Buffalo Bore or another boutique manufacturer sell some thermonuclear hunting loads for the x39. Take a heavy bullet of like 150 or 160 grains and launch it as fast as that tiny little case will allow. Don't understand why they haven't tried it already, except maybe the fear of people blowing up an AK or SKS with one.
Sectional Density never killed any animal. It is not the shape of the bullet going in that matters. It is what the bullet does after it hits that matters.You just moved the goalposts.
I'm not sure I'd agree on that count, but accuracy trumps everything IMO.I'd have to agree I'd take the x39 before the 30-30. Think the 125~ are more effective then the 150-170 slow bullets.
If a person is loading for 7.62x39 and hasn't tried CFE BLK yet, put it on your Christmas shopping list. It's that good.
Pop cans at 200 is good, but 4" clays at 300 is pretty routine for my bolt gun. It really is a very accurate caliber and so easy to shoot too.It really is. I get 2620 fps with a 125 grain nosler accubond from a 16" AR15. Will shoot pop cans at 200 yards.
Pop cans at 200 is good, but 4" clays at 300 is pretty routine for my bolt gun. It really is a very accurate caliber and so easy to shoot too.