While I am a huge fan of BCM parts and rifles, have you done a price check comparison lately? And looked at the current prices of DD, LMT, Noveske, et al?
I thought the thread was about complete rifles, and you're bringing up manufacturers whose rifles are going for $600 to $750 plus or more than a stock Colt 6920. Way overpriced for what you get? Nah ...
Little bit of hyperbole creeping into the thread, maybe?
At that point in the conversation I wasn't talking about price. I was talking about the "milspec" argument everybody talks about with Colt.
Look, I don't care what rifle you use, or used. The fact is Colt's glory days are far behind them. Sure, they used to own the market, but they made stupid decisions, and they are now a shadow of their former self.
No hyperbole here, maybe just a bit of saltiness...
"mil-spec" is so much more than "mil-spec" parts, so much more
Not really. "Milspec" stands for military specifications, so something is either milspec or it's not. Again, keep in mind that "milspec" is just what the military thought was important and paid the lower bidder (Colt) to mass produce it. You could look at milspec as basically the lowest common denominator, the payment for entry if you will. Does it work? Yep! But, like I said before with commercial rifles, yes there are crap rifles out there, and yes, there are also rifles that are
tremendously better than Colts. Again, yes, you'll pay a premium for them.
Can some really call it a PSA or Colt rifle when someone just uses the receiver and builds their own from it? To really compare Colt to PSA I think one needs to buy a complete rifle from them then compare the two. Based on my PSA M4 I bought a complete upper and lower it is a 6 to 7 MOA at 10 shots rifle at 100 yds while my Colt and FN groups half that .
Mine are target rifles so I 'm not "running them hard" and in that sense while my PSA is minute of barn accuracy it hasn't failed yet function wise, but for long term use I trust Colt and FN more.
I think that depends. I built my PSA rifle using all PSA parts: lower build kit, upper/barrel, etc.
Rifle accuracy depends on a lot of different things. My PSA rifle will shoot 1.5 moa regularly. I think I can get that smaller when I have time to develop a handload for it.
I don't run my rifles hard either. The hardest my AR was ever run for was in a 4 day class, it was only about 650 rounds, but it was in the desert and I never cleaned it. It ran fine with no problems. Does that mean I'd want to take it into combat? No. But it's good enough for me.