Ks5shooter
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So the great state of nj will not allow hollow points for self defense.Only target practice at range farm etc .What is the best EDC ammo that will do the job non hollow point.. thanks Don
I am loading Lehigh Defense Extreme Defense bullets. Solid copper non expanding not HP.
Check your state rules carefully though.
I load Underwood Extreme Defender, which uses the Lehigh extreme defense bullet with a slightly hotter load and nickel plated casing. Both bullets rely on fluid transfer to crush tissue without any expansion creating a wound channel similar to or greater than JHP.
A comment from ballistic authority Gary K. Roberts https://primaryandsecondary.com/dr-gary-k-roberts/... my concern with fmj is over penetration.
In short, the consequences of projectile under-penetration are far more likely to get officers and citizens killed than over-penetration issues.
"Fluid transfer"?Both bullets rely on fluid transfer to crush tissue without any expansion creating a wound channel similar to or greater than JHP.
f. Dum-dum or armor piercing ammunition.
(1) Any person, other than a law enforcement officer or persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6, who knowingly has
in his possession any hollow nose or dum-dum bullet, or (2) any person, other than a collector of firearms or ammunition as curios or relics as
defined in Title 18, United States Code, section 921 (a) (13) and has in his possession a valid Collector of Curios and Relics License issued by
the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, who knowingly has in his possession any armor piercing ammunition, as defined in
subsection gg. of N.J.S.2C:39-1, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. For purposes of this section, a collector may possess not more than
three examples of each distinctive variation of the ammunition described above. A distinctive variation includes a different head stamp,
composition, design, or color.
gg. “Armor piercing ammunition” means:
(1) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and is constructed entirely,
excluding the presence of traces of other substances, from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze,
beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or (2) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a
handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile. “Armor piercing ammunition”
shall not include shotgun shot required by federal or State environmental or game regulations for hunting purposes, a frangible
projectile designed for target shooting, a projectile which the United States Attorney General finds is primarily intended to be used
for sporting purposes, or any other projectile or projectile core which the United States Attorney General finds is intended to be used
for industrial purposes, including a charge used in an oil gas well perforating device.
It' bull. This has been discussed here at some length.
For what it’s worth, this from the NJ.gov website
(Para 13 changed to 1 when pasting)
I’m not a police officer, are hollow points legal for me to possess?
- Yes. They are legal for purchase and possess in your home or on land owned by you. They are legal to possess and use at a gun range. They are also legal to possess while traveling to and from such places. Ammunition lacking a hollow cavity at the tip, such as those with a polymer filling, are not considered to be hollow point ammunition. An example of this can be seen with the Hornady Critical Defense / Critical Duty, Cor-Bon PowRball / Glaser Safety Slug and Nosler Inc. Defense ammunition.
https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/firearms-faqs.shtml
That is my understanding, but as I don’t live in NJ it doesn’t really affect me. I would like to hear from people that live and shoot there.I want to make sure I understand this; so you can own JHP's, take them to a gun range and fire them at a target in NJ, but you can't carry them for self defense purposes in NJ. Is that correct?
Believe what you will.It' bull. This has been discussed here at some length.
Body tissue is not a fluid, and it does not behave like one.
The bullet will rotate less than one revolution while it is in the body.
It is an obvious gimmick.
I do not buy the claims, not even a little. But the main reason I would not use them is their appearance. A prosecutor could get a lot of milage from passing those things around to the jurors, even without mentioning the ads.
"Fluid transfer" is a term used to describe the movement of a fluid from one vessel to another.
"a wider wound channel and maximum transfer of kinetic energy into a soft target."It' bull. This has been discussed here at some length.
Body tissue is not a fluid, and it does not behave like one.
The bullet will rotate less than one revolution while it is in the body.
It is an obvious gimmick.
I do not buy the claims, not even a little. But the main reason I would not use them is their appearance. A prosecutor could get a lot of milage from passing those things around to the jurors, even without mentioning the ads.
"Fluid transfer" is a term used to describe the movement of a fluid from one vessel to another.
An infomed judgmet can be based on facts, icludingBelieve what you will.
Unless the bullet passes through, all of the energy of any round is "transferred" to the target."...maximum transfer of kinetic energy into a soft target."
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It' bull. This has been discussed here at some length.
Body tissue is not a fluid, and it does not behave like one.
The bullet will rotate less than one revolution while it is in the body.
It is an obvious gimmick.
I do not buy the claims, not even a little. But the main reason I would not use them is their appearance. A prosecutor could get a lot of milage from passing those things around to the jurors, even without mentioning the ads.
"Fluid transfer" is a term used to describe the movement of a fluid from one vessel to another.