jimbo555
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Lets see,we have colt,kimber,sig,hk,ruger,glock,taurus,walther and just about every other maker of semi-autos..What conclusion can we make?
I'm surprised to see so many Kimbers here
My KelTec P-11 is very reliable BUT, when I brought it home new, It wouldn't even cycle rounds into the chamber when I racked the slide, SOOOO.....
Got out the dremel and polishing compound and steel wool and 1500 grit wet sand paper. Polished the surfaces till they were shiney like chrome. And guess what???
In 800 rounds, I haven't had one jam or fail to fire. And I DON'T have to polish it all the time. Just that one time did it.
I clean it, of course.
Given that I couldn't even cycle the rounds into the chamber when it was new, however, I suspect that MY KELTEC WAS PROBABLY NO BETTER THAN ALL OF THOSE "POS" KELTECS LISTED ON THIS THREAD.
The Keltec is a tinkerer's gun. THEY HAVE TO BE BROKEN IN. Mine did, anyway. It wasn't accurate at all when it was new, either - not until I installed the mag shoe on the stock mag to lengthen the grip. (I also bought a second extended mag, which also lengthened the grip.) This gave me greater control over the snappy recoil.
I've said it before: Keltec sells you a gun that's only 95% complete - you have to polish it off to get the reliability that it's truly capable of. This is a very contrary notion to today's consumer oriented marketplace. KelTEc should either finish off/polish their guns so they work properly, or TELL customers that they need to do it.
No, the materials aren't like top line guns. I still haven't fixed the P-11's disabled last-round-slide-lock function....I'm worried if I send it in they'll inadvertantly do something to wreck it's ultra reliable "mojo".
I carry my P-11 with confidence.
Oh no, I did the dance correctly. And I know the difference between a friction jam and "jammed because the hammer leg is in the wrong position". When you push the mainspring housing in, you should feel spring pressure. If you do, you've got it right. If you don't, you don't. It didn't hard jam when pulling to the rear. It was definitely dragging on something.That means you didn't do the little dance correctly when you assembled it. (I have to refer to the manual *every* time I try to reinstall the bolt in my Mk II, and I still sometimes need to do it twice to get it right)
Ranges that rent guns are notorious for not cleaning their firearms often enough to keep them in working order. I've seen even high quality guns jamming at ranges because there was so much buildup on them they were practically converted to single shots.My old Buckmark, which I sold, did experience a few problems from time to time. I did shoot the cheap, bulk stuff with it, but it still had a lot of FTFs. I think that the problem was mostly due to bad ammo.
The only centerfire autoloader that I've had problems with was an XD9 that I rented about 7 years ago.
It was a rental and it jammed up on me when I was intentionally trying to limp wrist it. I didn't even make through the first magazine before the round failed to enter the chamber properly.
I did the tap and rack thing, but it didn't work. I removed the magazine and it was still jammed. I had some simple cleaning tools that a gun smith made for me a while back. One of the tools was kind of like a dental pick, but a little more sturdy. After digging through my range bag I found the pick and managed to dislodge the round.
In spite of this experience, I still like XDs. For a while, I was really interested in getting an XD45 compact and/or an XDm 9. I really couldn't get this experience out of my head and just couldn't bring myself to buy an XD after this experience.
At the time, I was trying to intentionally limp wrist about 6 or 7 guns. None of the other guns had any problems with what I was doing. At the time, I also tried "limp wristing" a G17, PX4, 90-two, Sig 2022, USP, and a CZ 75b.
None of these other guns had any problems with the intentional limp wristing. I only ran about 2-3 mags worth of 9mm ammo through each gun. It was probably just bad luck that the XD9 jammed up on me.
Even though I recognized this at the time, this experience made me gravitate to revolvers. After a few more years, it sounded as though the M&P's "teething problems" were solved. There were a few documented problems with the gun early on, but it sounded as though S&W solved these issues.
Around this time, the M&P and Glock won equal contracts after succesfully completing the ATF pistol trials. After hearing this, I tried a M&P out and loved it. I went out and got an M&P 9 and a M&P 45. I haven't looked back. I even sold a few of my revolvers and don't regret a thing.