my friends laugh, I just can't shoot this gun...
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Lawdawg45
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Well, if you want to marry Pamela Anderson and be celibate........
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MCgunner
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I'd have to shoot it. But, I get the dilemma.
bbuddtec
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I guess I'd laugh too, it's kinda like buying a nice new car and having it flat-bedded to your garage and close the door...
Except that is involving way more money.
Ps, I wouldn't join the colt collectors association, either hehe
That's just me, and I'm not telling you you're wrong, to heck with them, do what u like, there's tons of safe queens out there that are unfired by their owners!
Except that is involving way more money.
Ps, I wouldn't join the colt collectors association, either hehe
That's just me, and I'm not telling you you're wrong, to heck with them, do what u like, there's tons of safe queens out there that are unfired by their owners!
RSVP2RIP
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I'd buy a used one just like it and shoot that one.
Ram48
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Because its a gun? you would be a hero among your peers and a celebrity at the range when you fire that first round, Now isn't that worth the 30% 
CraigC
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A run-of-the-mill 3rd generation Colt has no collector value and won't in your lifetime. It is like any other gun and it will lose value by shooting it but that is all. Basically you're denying yourself one of life's true pleasures over $200-$300.
I'd shoot it, I wouldn't be able to control myself.
I seen two Mustang Cobra R's dropped off at Korum Ford in Puyallup Washington. One went in the showroom, sticker price marked up to 99,999. The other went straight on a flatbed, next stop the dealership owners garage. I'm not much for Mustang's, but like the gun it seems a bit of a waste.
bbuddtec said:
I seen two Mustang Cobra R's dropped off at Korum Ford in Puyallup Washington. One went in the showroom, sticker price marked up to 99,999. The other went straight on a flatbed, next stop the dealership owners garage. I'm not much for Mustang's, but like the gun it seems a bit of a waste.
CajunBass
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I wouldn't shoot it either. I've got lots of guns to shoot.
My kids might shoot it when I'm dead. They might sell it to someone else who will shoot it.
But I wouldn't.
My kids might shoot it when I'm dead. They might sell it to someone else who will shoot it.
But I wouldn't.
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Quoheleth
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With her track record, that might be a good idea...
As to the Colt, if you feel too guilty about shooting it then sell/trade it for a used one and shoot the heck out of that one.
Q
Well the Colt Company is on your side. 
For a while they stated in the owners manual the SAA was intended to be a collector's item, and as such should not be fired.
Of course a lot of buyers didn't pay any attention to that advise, but on the other hand many did.
Nowhere is it written that someone can't keep what they buy in unfired/mint condition. If that upsets the "you MUST shoot everything that you own" bunch consider that they have a right to shoot what they have, but not demand that you have to do the same. You are under no obligation to justify to anyone else what you have decided.
Every once and awhile I get to handle and examine a Civil War era Colt (or whatever) that is still in new condition. When that happens one's eyeballs can teach them a lot about how these revolvers were made and finished back then. On those occasions I am very glad that the original owner, and those that followed, didn't turn it into a well-used shooter.
For a while they stated in the owners manual the SAA was intended to be a collector's item, and as such should not be fired.
Of course a lot of buyers didn't pay any attention to that advise, but on the other hand many did.
Nowhere is it written that someone can't keep what they buy in unfired/mint condition. If that upsets the "you MUST shoot everything that you own" bunch consider that they have a right to shoot what they have, but not demand that you have to do the same. You are under no obligation to justify to anyone else what you have decided.
Every once and awhile I get to handle and examine a Civil War era Colt (or whatever) that is still in new condition. When that happens one's eyeballs can teach them a lot about how these revolvers were made and finished back then. On those occasions I am very glad that the original owner, and those that followed, didn't turn it into a well-used shooter.
beatledog7
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Find yourself an identical but shot-the heck-out-of Colt, and shoot the heck out of it some more. Then you'll feel better.
cyclopsshooter
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Some of us can get just as much enjoyment from "knowing" that we have a NIB example of something.
Guillermo
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hopefully it has been shot at the factory
of course, if you just want to look at it, that is your option.
If you choose to shoot it, carry it in a rug to the range (no holster) and shoot away. It will only show a "turn" mark for many thousands of rounds.
of course, if you just want to look at it, that is your option.
If you choose to shoot it, carry it in a rug to the range (no holster) and shoot away. It will only show a "turn" mark for many thousands of rounds.
My father invested in Colt and Winchester commemoratives. I was never able to do anything but look at them. Most are from the 60s. They have all increased in value but not all. I have gotten better return from his regular firearms that he used in most cases.
Some of the Winchester commemoratives even list lower than equivalent rack grade.
Because of this I will not buy anything I won't shoot. Even my factory engraved guns. General rule of thumb is nothing increases in value sooner than 20-25 years. This is of course a general rule. Don't expect any plastic pistol to increase in value at all.
In today's Market the new Colts are a good buy for a shooter. If you do the math with inflation they are actually cheaper than they used to be.
If you just like the idea of having something and just admiring it, feel free. Most knife collectors don't us their knives. They just enjoy them for their form and quality.
Cheers,
ts
Some of the Winchester commemoratives even list lower than equivalent rack grade.
Because of this I will not buy anything I won't shoot. Even my factory engraved guns. General rule of thumb is nothing increases in value sooner than 20-25 years. This is of course a general rule. Don't expect any plastic pistol to increase in value at all.
In today's Market the new Colts are a good buy for a shooter. If you do the math with inflation they are actually cheaper than they used to be.
If you just like the idea of having something and just admiring it, feel free. Most knife collectors don't us their knives. They just enjoy them for their form and quality.
Cheers,
ts
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
Absolutely! However, don't do it for the wrong reasons. I think that many are under the impression that the Colt SAA they bought 20yrs ago and put on a shelf is now worth more than it was. For common, unembellished variations, this is simply not true. I have no problem if you have something you don't want to shoot. Some folks just seem to let the collector crowd dictate what they do with their property, as you suggest we shooters do. I just hate to see anyone do that without their eyes wide open. It never hurts to have a differing perspective. Personally, I encourage folks to live a little.
Yes, I'm sure I would sleep better knowing that I denied myself the pleasure of shooting and carrying a fine sixgun for the sake of faceless future collectors. Maybe we should just buy all our guns to put into personal museums???
Guillermo
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Craig
You and I are shooters. We agree that a gun is not a gun if it is not used. Just like the Spirit of St. Louis is not a plane anymore.
But Cyclops has a point.
I am not one of them. You are not one of them.
But some folks out there are more into collecting than shooting.
You and I are shooters. We agree that a gun is not a gun if it is not used. Just like the Spirit of St. Louis is not a plane anymore.
But Cyclops has a point.
I am not one of them. You are not one of them.
But some folks out there are more into collecting than shooting.
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
Got no problem with that. I just hate to see somebody put a new gun away for posterity, under the false impression that they're gaining money on it, only to find out 20yrs later that it hasn't even kept up with inflation.
Hammerdown77
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I gots no problem shooting that gun. I'll give you $800. Cash Money!
I've never bought a gun intending not to shoot it. I love milsurps. I have sold 3 guns NIB not wanting to put the first round through after having them a while including a NHM MAK90, NHM MAK 91, and a BAR MKII Safari Grade w/BOSS in 30.06. Still have my NDM 86 NIB.
If you enjoy it unfired, keep it that way. Hope you have others you actually shoot.
If you enjoy it unfired, keep it that way. Hope you have others you actually shoot.
Perhaps I'm misunderstood.
It is not that all of the guns I buy are salted away in a safe. Far from it, I don't hesitate to buy guns to shoot, but they are usually used, in perfect shape (or can made so) as far as mechanics are concerned, but with non-serious cosmetic wear. Doing this usually saves me money on something that's going to see additional wear anyway.
On the other hand I sometimes buy something that has a collectable value that exceeds what it's worth as a shooter, and contrary to one member's observations, I have sometimes doubled my money or more - within less then a year and sometimes in less then a month. One of my friends holds the record in that he bought a collectable at a gun show at one end of the row, and more then doubled it before got to the other end! The seller sold it as a shooter, and the buyer knew better.
Now lets take the Colt Company. What would happen to the value of current and recent SAA revolvers if the upper management's bean counters decided it wasn't worth keeping in production, or reduced sales to only highly embellished guns? Unlikely? With top management focused on military/law enforcement contracts I would never bet it wouldn't happen. Or they might move production overseas.
Consider what happened back in 1964 when Winchester discontinued their classic rifles and shotguns and replaced them with cheaper versions. Soon the value of "pre-64" Winchesters went through the roof! I have another friend who is inside the industry with connections, who made a substantial amount of money by buying a lot of classic Browning’s just before they were discontinued.
"Shooters" usually buy guns out-of-pocket, or take a loss trading something else in. "Collectors" are often able to buy more guns using the profits they made from previous buys, and they don't necessarily have to wait generations to do it.
The Old Fuff is a shooter and collector, and is as greedy as they come. Never, ever has he made the mistake of shooting new or new condition collectables. Used collectables with a foot in each world can be shot occasionally, and in my case sometimes are. Meanwhile I giggle all of the way to the bank.
It is not that all of the guns I buy are salted away in a safe. Far from it, I don't hesitate to buy guns to shoot, but they are usually used, in perfect shape (or can made so) as far as mechanics are concerned, but with non-serious cosmetic wear. Doing this usually saves me money on something that's going to see additional wear anyway.
On the other hand I sometimes buy something that has a collectable value that exceeds what it's worth as a shooter, and contrary to one member's observations, I have sometimes doubled my money or more - within less then a year and sometimes in less then a month. One of my friends holds the record in that he bought a collectable at a gun show at one end of the row, and more then doubled it before got to the other end! The seller sold it as a shooter, and the buyer knew better.
Now lets take the Colt Company. What would happen to the value of current and recent SAA revolvers if the upper management's bean counters decided it wasn't worth keeping in production, or reduced sales to only highly embellished guns? Unlikely? With top management focused on military/law enforcement contracts I would never bet it wouldn't happen. Or they might move production overseas.
Consider what happened back in 1964 when Winchester discontinued their classic rifles and shotguns and replaced them with cheaper versions. Soon the value of "pre-64" Winchesters went through the roof! I have another friend who is inside the industry with connections, who made a substantial amount of money by buying a lot of classic Browning’s just before they were discontinued.
"Shooters" usually buy guns out-of-pocket, or take a loss trading something else in. "Collectors" are often able to buy more guns using the profits they made from previous buys, and they don't necessarily have to wait generations to do it.
The Old Fuff is a shooter and collector, and is as greedy as they come. Never, ever has he made the mistake of shooting new or new condition collectables. Used collectables with a foot in each world can be shot occasionally, and in my case sometimes are. Meanwhile I giggle all of the way to the bank.
jj1962hemi
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I agree with those that say "Buy a shooter and flog it!" I'd have a hard time shooting something that nice too. Typically, I buy used guns and shoot them, not usually losing money. The older I get, the more I shy away from NIB. I respect collectors though. To each his own!
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