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Why aren't these more popular?!
I mean, I know the ammo situation is mildly annoying (though I'll bet Starline can easily do a run of Longue/Pedersen if they cared to) but this is a seriously nice gun. Flat, thin, trim, lightweight, great trigger, and easily the most comfortable handgun I've ever held (think "Luger" only better). It also looks extremely handsome, as you'd expect of the ancestor to the SIG P210.
Very compact slide/frame arrangement due to the narrow chambering. I am usually the first to deride frame-mounted safeties as being needlessly cumbersome or out of the way, but the slide height is so short the lever is practically where a 1911-style safety lever would sit on a larger gun already. The safety is about as fool-proof as a Beretta's, also, though it does turn the wrong way (points upward for safe; gun was meant to be carried empty). The frame/slide fit is quite loose-goosey on this well-worn example, but the barrel is solidly locked to the slide in battery, with maybe five-thou of play at the muzzle end (not bad for such an old gun).
Quality 1911-style magazine, and most importantly with a similar mag-release button at the trigger guard, unlike the P210 (until recently). There is a mag-safety on the right side which prevents mags from dropping free, unfortunately (though it is not the type to hurt the trigger pull, unlike the Hi Power)
The only function issue with this one is a dry-fire firmly lodges the (spring-returned) firing pin the forward position, a good 1/4" proud of the breechface . Feels like some old gunk or maybe a raised burr in there, the barrel link is also a little stiff & needs cleaning.
The sights are, well, pre-WWII pistol sights. Nothing special, although the rear notch opening is a fairly wide & extremely sharp square shape with a wide blade surrounding it, which makes them the best of these 'vestigial' pistol sights I've yet encountered.
Seems like an extremely well thought out weapon, borrowing the best elements of its time and then some.
-Very durable safety (drum type rotates to block the firing pin & disables sear)
-Thumb-activated mag release --very forward-thinking for Europe in its day
-Modular trigger group (can be removed as a unit)
-Captive return spring/guide rod unit
-Quality sliding-stirrup trigger (trigger pivots, but transfer bar slides up at a 45deg angle)
-Ridiculously comfortable grip
-Respectably powerful cartridge, 77gr @ 1100fps, especially considering the size differential with more powerful 9mms or the recoil of smaller 380s
Things that could change;
-move safety to frame, though it may get crowded on this small a frame
-or forego manual safety for a grip-safety
-longer slide-release, as it is at thumb-tip now (sling-shot likely the intended manual of arms, though)
-ditch the magazine safety, or move the pressure point up to the feed lips so it helps push the mags out upon release, rather than holding them inside the gun
-scalloping the top edge of the bakelite grip panels so the short slide can be more easily grasped
-better sights, but they'd be worn down to these nubs after nearly a century anyways
Truly a great design that a wise company (CZ-USA, for example, as a sort of "mustang" version of a CZ75...) should totally bring back as a 32acp, or even simply as the original caliber renamed to something like "300 Badass" with a dedicated run of ammo by a manufacturer. Maybe use cut-down 30 Carbine brass, and see if the power can be amped up a little for nastier hollow-point expansion.
TCB
I mean, I know the ammo situation is mildly annoying (though I'll bet Starline can easily do a run of Longue/Pedersen if they cared to) but this is a seriously nice gun. Flat, thin, trim, lightweight, great trigger, and easily the most comfortable handgun I've ever held (think "Luger" only better). It also looks extremely handsome, as you'd expect of the ancestor to the SIG P210.
Very compact slide/frame arrangement due to the narrow chambering. I am usually the first to deride frame-mounted safeties as being needlessly cumbersome or out of the way, but the slide height is so short the lever is practically where a 1911-style safety lever would sit on a larger gun already. The safety is about as fool-proof as a Beretta's, also, though it does turn the wrong way (points upward for safe; gun was meant to be carried empty). The frame/slide fit is quite loose-goosey on this well-worn example, but the barrel is solidly locked to the slide in battery, with maybe five-thou of play at the muzzle end (not bad for such an old gun).
Quality 1911-style magazine, and most importantly with a similar mag-release button at the trigger guard, unlike the P210 (until recently). There is a mag-safety on the right side which prevents mags from dropping free, unfortunately (though it is not the type to hurt the trigger pull, unlike the Hi Power)
The only function issue with this one is a dry-fire firmly lodges the (spring-returned) firing pin the forward position, a good 1/4" proud of the breechface . Feels like some old gunk or maybe a raised burr in there, the barrel link is also a little stiff & needs cleaning.
The sights are, well, pre-WWII pistol sights. Nothing special, although the rear notch opening is a fairly wide & extremely sharp square shape with a wide blade surrounding it, which makes them the best of these 'vestigial' pistol sights I've yet encountered.
Seems like an extremely well thought out weapon, borrowing the best elements of its time and then some.
-Very durable safety (drum type rotates to block the firing pin & disables sear)
-Thumb-activated mag release --very forward-thinking for Europe in its day
-Modular trigger group (can be removed as a unit)
-Captive return spring/guide rod unit
-Quality sliding-stirrup trigger (trigger pivots, but transfer bar slides up at a 45deg angle)
-Ridiculously comfortable grip
-Respectably powerful cartridge, 77gr @ 1100fps, especially considering the size differential with more powerful 9mms or the recoil of smaller 380s
Things that could change;
-move safety to frame, though it may get crowded on this small a frame
-or forego manual safety for a grip-safety
-longer slide-release, as it is at thumb-tip now (sling-shot likely the intended manual of arms, though)
-ditch the magazine safety, or move the pressure point up to the feed lips so it helps push the mags out upon release, rather than holding them inside the gun
-scalloping the top edge of the bakelite grip panels so the short slide can be more easily grasped
-better sights, but they'd be worn down to these nubs after nearly a century anyways
Truly a great design that a wise company (CZ-USA, for example, as a sort of "mustang" version of a CZ75...) should totally bring back as a 32acp, or even simply as the original caliber renamed to something like "300 Badass" with a dedicated run of ammo by a manufacturer. Maybe use cut-down 30 Carbine brass, and see if the power can be amped up a little for nastier hollow-point expansion.
TCB