Preventing Tarnishing after wet tumbling in SS media?

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doubleh said:
I'm going to be a little snarky here I suppose but I have to ask a question. Why do reloads have to look like brand new factory ammo and stay that way? I've been reloading a long time and never noticed any difference between reloads that had no tarnish and those that did. As far as I'm concerned if the cases are clean that's all that is necessary.
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Like I have said I reload with my grandson. And I have explained to him that any thing you do is worth doing to the best of your ability.
I asked him a simple question, and it was "If you go to school and the teacher has a surprise test and everyone gets a C and you get a B, but you could have gotten an A, what dose that make you?"
His answer was "A loser, Poppy" He got it, and he is only 5.
Now do you get it?
 
DRAINSMITH said:
Like I have said I reload with my grandson. And I have explained to him that any thing you do is worth doing to the best of your ability.
I asked him a simple question, and it was "If you go to school and the teacher has a surprise test and everyone gets a C and you get a B, but you could have gotten an A, what dose that make you?"
His answer was "A loser, Poppy" He got it, and he is only 5.
Now do you get it?
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what does your grandson have to do with preventing brass from tarnishing ?
can we ever stay on topic anymore ?
the OP did not ask about who likes shinny brass he ask how can he prevent tarnish ?
 
JO JO said:
what does your grandson have to do with preventing brass from tarnishing ?
can we ever stay on topic anymore ?
the OP did not ask about who likes shinny brass he ask how can he prevent tarnish ?
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I assume the OP wants to prevent tarnish because he likes shiny brass...
 
judgedelta said:
I tried the Armorall Wash and Wax one time. More is not better. Left my brass black and sticky; had to run again with Dawn and Lemishine to get it off. I don't know how much I used, maybe a capful, but it was too much.
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I had that happen to me too ! The place where I shoot has a very fine red clay dirt that sticks like crazy. I found if I do a 20 minute pre tumble with just brass and Dawn,then a hour with AA W&W and pins , that issue went away and the total time didn't increase.
 
Hey JO JO you just lost all credibility.
On post # 27 You said "The OP did not ask who likes shinny brass he asked how he can prevent tarnish?"
Then on post #29 some one said "I assume the OP wants to prevent tarnish because he likes shiny brass" Your answer "so do I," all in less than 11 min.
 
Ghost In The Fog said:
Can you tumble live rounds?
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Doublehelix said:
Personally, I would never tumble live rounds, but there are lots of folks who seem to do so without issue. That always bothered me so I have never even attempted it.
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Back in 2010, Walkalong and snuffy did some range/chrono testing of rounds tumbled for 48 hours!

Result? No significant difference - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=6210696#post6210696

Tumbling loaded rounds myth was forever BUSTED!
 
Hey drainsmith !!
Hey JO JO you just lost all credibility.
On post # 27 You said "The OP did not ask who likes shinny brass he asked how he can prevent tarnish?"
Then on post #29 some one said "I assume the OP wants to prevent tarnish because he likes shiny brass" Your answer "so do I," all in less than 11 min.


so do I means that I agree with what the poster said the OP wants to prevent tarnish because he likes shiny brass !
You make no sense ?

The OP wants shiny brass this is why he is asking how to prevent tarnish !
I use 1oz armor all wash & wax
1/4 tsp lemishine
1 gal cold water
works good for me ! I know that if to much lemishine is used it can cause bad results, I then roll the brass around in a towel then put in a cheap food
dehydrator to dry, I use the Frankford rotary tumbler and the 5lb pins.
I have not had a tarnish issue and I deprime before I tumble
I have also dry tumbled live rounds with no issues but as said above dont dry tumble jhp as it will clog them up, I also noticed the dry tumbling live rounds that are lead instead of copper the lead will turn a nasty darker color
 
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Mr. Potterfield thinks this was was made to preserve guns. Actually it was created for Museums....to preserve museum collections of things made of wood or metal. On metal items it slows the tarnishing process so well that most museums use and swear by it.

Mr. Potterfield carries it in two sizes at Midway USA. Besides preventing tarnish on guns it works on brass too. Once thing to think about however is what a very slick surface on your brass does when you fire a round in the chamber. Good? or Bad?
 
DRAINSMITH said:
Like I have said I reload with my grandson. And I have explained to him that any thing you do is worth doing to the best of your ability.
I asked him a simple question, and it was "If you go to school and the teacher has a surprise test and everyone gets a C and you get a B, but you could have gotten an A, what dose that make you?"
His answer was "A loser, Poppy" He got it, and he is only 5.
Now do you get it?
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Doing a lot of extra work to keep brass shiny when it accomplishes nothing positive in how your loads shoot is not doing something to the best of your ability. It's simply doing more work that does nothing in the long run. But if doing so makes you feel as if you're doing your very best please be my guest.
 
GW Staar said:
... thing to think about however is what a very slick surface on your brass does when you fire a round in the chamber. Good? or Bad?
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If the slick surface aggravates neck tension and increases bullet setback, that's bad.

That's why I like NuFinish. While residual polymer on the brass surface prevents tarnishing, it doesn't seem to affect neck tension and not increase bullet setback, which is good.
 
Here's some brass after procedure outlined in post #24. The .223 has been in this box out in my garage for at least 3 months. The .45 cases have been in this bag, on my mantle for over a year. IMG_4260[1].JPG IMG_4258[1].JPG IMG_4259[1].JPG
 
JO JO said:
Hey drainsmith !!
Hey JO JO you just lost all credibility.
On post # 27 You said "The OP did not ask who likes shinny brass he asked how he can prevent tarnish?"
Then on post #29 some one said "I assume the OP wants to prevent tarnish because he likes shiny brass" Your answer "so do I," all in less than 11 min.


so do I means that I agree with what the poster said the OP wants to prevent tarnish because he likes shiny brass !
You make no sense ?

The OP wants shiny brass this is why he is asking how to prevent tarnish !
I use 1oz armor all wash & wax
1/4 tsp lemishine
1 gal cold water
works good for me ! I know that if to much lemishine is used it can cause bad results, I then roll the brass around in a towel then put in a cheap food
dehydrator to dry, I use the Frankford rotary tumbler and the 5lb pins.
I have not had a tarnish issue and I deprime before I tumble
I have also dry tumbled live rounds with no issues but as said above dont dry tumble jhp as it will clog them up, I also noticed the dry tumbling live rounds that are lead instead of copper the lead will turn a nasty darker color
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We do the exact same thing with 3 exceptions.
1. I run all my brass threw a sonic cleaner before I deprime and resize. Just to get the lead off the brass.
2. I use 2 table spoons of Dawn instead of Armor All wash.
3. I have a 5 gallon full of distilled water that I rinse off the brass before I dry it. keeps the water spots down.
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doubleh said:
Doing a lot of extra work to keep brass shiny when it accomplishes nothing positive in how your loads shoot is not doing something to the best of your ability. It's simply doing more work that does nothing in the long run. But if doing so makes you feel as if you're doing your very best please be my guest.
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I am not trying to make my ammo load or shoot better. Let me put it this way, if you take 100 folks from this form and we had a shoot off I would probably rate 95 - 100. My accuracy SUCKS. And I have my own range, and practice all the time. But this is something I can not control. (bad eye sight) But being able to teach my grandson to do his very best is well worth it.
 
Wow... thanks for the great ideas.
doubleh said:
I'm going to be a little snarky here I suppose but I have to ask a question. Why do reloads have to look like brand new factory ammo and stay that way? I've been reloading a long time and never noticed any difference between reloads that had no tarnish and those that did. As far as I'm concerned if the cases are clean that's all that is necessary.
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Doubleh

I am happy to hear that shinny brass isn't important to you. I am sure it saves you a great deal of time and effort when reloading.

My car would probably run just as well if I never cleaned it. However, I clean it because I like to drive a clean car... make sense?
 
Guys

Thank you to all that took the time to provide information on what cleaning process works best for you. I look forward to trying some of your ideas!

Good Shooting!
 
So I'm under the impression that the lemishine's purpose is hard water. So If you use soft water that runs through a micron filter, would you need lemishine? I bet the AAW&W might coat better without it. I'm thinking about running the finished rounds through walnut (or corn cob?) with some nufinish too. You can use nufinish on a complete round, huh?
 
I suppose I will try the car wash instead of dishwashing liquid. Decent read and several members in agreement about its use makes it worth a try. The humidity in my region helps brass tarnish, along with the other things that have been mentioned. Thanks for the post.
 
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