Never would have guessed

tightgroup tiger said:

Or just preying on the young reloaders that don't know it's free at the range.

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Ranges actually charge you for picking up brass now. Maybe the lied to me but I asked if I can pick the brass out of the buckets and they said 'No.' But then told me it's 3 dollars a pound of brass I pick form the buckets. So they gave me a bucket to go select my brass with, and when I came back they measured the added weight of the bucket to charge me. Since I had so few cases in there, wasn't enough to add to a pound, they just gave it to me for free. (I found some 30-30, 45 LC, and whatever else I found)
Just sucks the days of going to a range to pick up the dozens of brass cases, and for free are over. Everyone picks up their brass now, regardless if they reload or not. Guess it's the companies offering to buy your brass from you that's getting it all , or maybe 90% of shooters really do reload, who knows.

And yes I don't normally separate brass headstamps if I'm doing normal target type loads but when I'm doing hot loads, I very much sort the box by headstamp. Winchester, Federal and Starline are my most desired for hot loads.

I've got my 9mm brass sorted by headstamp. I've got big baggies full of FC, *FC*, Win, WCC, Starline, Blazer, PMC, R-P, etc. But the biggest bag is "misc." It just keeps growing, and I never use it!

Just sucks the days of going to a range to pick up the dozens of brass cases, and for free are over. Everyone picks up their brass now, regardless if they reload or not. Guess it's the companies offering to buy your brass from you that's getting it all , or maybe 90% of shooters really do reload, who knows.

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Heir Kommp Die Sonne,
Around here they are selling their brass to buy more factory ammo. Most of the people I run into at the range don't reload.
Some of them look at me while I'm picking up my shells, like I'm stealing from the range.
I'll bet right now there is a percentage of re-loaders that are buying factory loads now instead of reloading because 9mms are so cheap right now.
Normally I would think that all the cheap factory loads are giving us a much higher percentage of truly once fired brass in our range pick up or what we have to buy.
Around here it sure is.
The problem is the brass is getting cheaper and cheaper also, meaning the quality is also cheaper and cheaper. The GFL brass I see more and more, has primer flash holes so far out of center that I can't de-prime some of it.
Fiocchi uses GFL brass and a lot of it is sold around here, or maybe GFL owns Fiocchi. I glad it is imported though because it keeps the price a littler higher so there is more domestic cheap factory loads still sold here right now than some of the foreign stuff, and most of them make better brass, at least the flash holes are centered anyways.

Ranges actually charge you for picking up brass now

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I had a range try to tell me I wasn't allowed to pick up my own brass once. That didn't go over very well. They lost the argument.
I did honor their rule of not picking up other peoples brass, (well maybe). You know, some of it just gets mixed in.

cheygriz said:

The strangest ones I've found were brass case 9MM and .45 with absolutely no markings or headstamp whatsoever.

I E-mailed a large ammo manufacturer that supplies the military, and they told me that these "might be" special runs made for " certain government agencies." (CIA???)

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We have tens of thousands of special military forces throughout the world, in places you never heard of, killing people you did not know existed, and the only time you find out about where they are is if several of them get killed in some spectacular fashion, or if you know one of those guys. They often won't tell you where they were, because they were told to keep their mouths shut. My mailman was afraid to talk about his missions in Cambodia, about 40 years after he left. At the time, the President claimed we were not there, (I watched him real time on TV when he lied about this!) and the Post Man shut up like a bank vault after he said Cambodia. Later I found the book and there were lots of classified missions. The Post Man was SOG.

I am aware from a work friend that his son was in Africa killing Lord Resistance Army soldiers, but you will never hear it. And, if I had asked, I bet their weapons, accessories, and ammunition were "clean". Or Commie.

This was carried by a bud of mine, sometime between Oct 1964 and Dec 1965, note no markings.





These are so rare one poster called me and my bud lairs about the provenance of the knife. So look it up yourself.

I personally seen three knives that had no markings at all, but were exact duplicates of Randalls. Including the sheaths.

These were not cheap knock-offs, because the steel in the blades had the same resistance to a stone as Randall's 0-1 tool steel.