Thinking about dabbling in a plastic double stack

As others have said, nothing will feel exactly like a 1911 trigger. If you go the hammer-fired route, you can get the SA mode on some of them to be nearly as crisp as a 1911, but you generally won't get reset that is as short. If you stick with striker-fired, they will all be spongy and creepy compared to a good hammer-fired pistol.

If solely based on trigger, then Walter PPQ or P99AS would be my choice, However, I found that based off my experience with likes of 1911 and CZ’s that I really enjoyed shooting XD mod2’s, so I have changed to these. Not because best trigger, but because they shoot most similar to a 1911 in terms of ergonomics. Trigger is very good though in my humble opinion. Works great for me.

Easy answer. Canik TP9 series.

Out of the box they have a lot of take up, but at the end a really decent trigger. Better than most upgraded Glock and S&W triggers.

Install a Freedomsmith trigger and the takeup goes away. Install the Galloway Precision reduced power spring kit and you're easily in 1911 out of the box trigger territory.

I have an SFX, with the above added it's a 3 lb trigger with no take up and minimal overtravel, the reset is extremely short, 2-3 mm at most.

I also have a TP9SF, it's the Canik ONE series. A $303 out the door gun here in Texas. Outside of the take up the trigger is better than the RIA 1911 I bought a couple months ago.

People talk about the Walther PPQ Q5 Match. The SFX is almost an exact copy at almost half the price and as an added bonus comes with 20 round mags instead of 15 round mags.

Just bought another Ruger SR9 17+1. Only $299.99 plus $4.99 shipping at CDNN. That’s $110 cheaper than the first one I bought 10 years ago (now owned by my son). It will compliment my SR45 very well.

An M&P with an Apex FSS kit is supposed to be really nice. I will admit though that having two 2011's and a 1911, it's hard to go back to most poly guns triggers. The Glock in particular is just "BLEH".

captain awesome said:

So my question, which plastic frame 9mm or 45s are going to have the nicest triggers, close to a 1911?

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Surprisingly (to me, anyway), my brand-new SIG P-365 XL with the flat trigger seems about as close to a good 1911 trigger as any polymer-framed, striker-fired pistol I've ever shot.

As an earlier poster mentioned, the P-320 X5 is worth a try. All of my M&Ps have Apex upgrades, and my SIGs' factory triggers still seem better.

Already mentioned, a PPQ something from Walther. Q5 match might be up your alley if you are fond of 5" 1911s. They also make a steel frame model. It is targeted toward completion shooting but should do just as well with concealed carry with a good holster. Q4 Tac if you want optic and suppressor capability. PPQ 45 for the obvious reason of staying with the 45 ACP round.

captain awesome said:

So my question, which plastic frame 9mm or 45s are going to have the nicest triggers, close to a 1911? if you were in my shoes what would you try first?

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Thinking about your requirements a bit, I would start with Beretta Px4 and Walther Q5 Match. Neither of them has a 1911 trigger, however. But they have their good qualities, enough to make them outstanding guns.

The HK P30, HK USP, Kahr of various kinds - may be nice handguns, but if you're looking for triggers, it ain't it. In particular Kahr is an interesting case in that it's extremely smooth and feels good, but it's a very long travel trigger. The Ruger Security-9 is an okay gun, but it's not what they call "a fine gun", in large part because of its trigger. As for XD-E, ewwwwwww. Just stay away from that.

captain awesome said:

I have always been a revolver man,

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zaitcev said:

In particular Kahr is an interesting case in that it's extremely smooth and feels good, but it's a very long travel trigger.

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Very much like an S&W double action trigger and the reason I mentioned it based on the OP’s mentioning revolvers. If they’re Colt SAA then disregard.

cheygriz said:

When I got my first Glock, a Gen1, model 17, I HATED the trigger.

After about 1,000 rounds, I "learned" the trigger and loved it.

Don't try to compare it to a 1911. they're totally different. I now like the Glock and SIG triggers as well as my Match 1911.

I don't think either trigger set up is "better" than the other, just different. Learn either one and it will serve you well.

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I stand by my earlier response, but the more I think about this, them more I’m inclined to suggest the OP just go out and buy a Glock 17, preferably a new Gen 5. You want a “plastic fantastic”, “Tupperware blaster”, go with the gun all others are compared to.

I know, lots of hate for Glock’s out there, for whatever reason, but they are good guns, as acknowledged by almost ALL the major firearms trainers out there, including Larry Vickers, Ken Hackathorn, Bill Wilson, Clint Smith, Taran Butler, Dave Harrington, Travis Haley, and a boatload of others.

Don’t be scared...contrary to popular belief amongst metal gun men, a Glock won’t steal your soul or give you erectile dysfunction. You won’t develop night sweats, or a sudden urge to drink foo foo coffee, or listen to New Age music dressed in black with your new hipster pals. You (probably) won’t even be kicked off your favorite range or left for the mailman by your wife.

No, all these myths about becoming a Glock owner really won’t happen...Trust me...this is as safe a space as you’ll find for advice...an internet gun forum.

YMMV

Buzznrose said:

I stand by my earlier response, but the more I think about this, them more I’m inclined to suggest the OP just go out and buy a Glock 17, preferably a new Gen 5.

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Glocks are good guns in general, but there is so much variety out there I think it would behoove the OP to rent several, or at the very least handle a ton of the available models out there.

Some of us just don't like the feel or triggers on Glocks. There's no reason the OP should just drop coin to get his feet wet when most big box stores have several brands to at least try on. Also, the OP mentioned liking 1911s. I think a Glock trigger will be rather disappointing for him, thought IMO no plastic striker gun comes close to even a relatively crappy 1911 trigger.

460Shooter said:

Glocks are good guns in general, but there is so much variety out there I think it would behoove the OP to rent several, or at the very least handle a ton of the available models out there.

Some of us just don't like the feel or triggers on Glocks. There's no reason the OP should just drop coin to get his feet whet when most big box stores have several brands to at least try on. Also, the OP mentioned liking 1911s. I think a Glock trigger will be rather disappointing for him, thought IMO no plastic striker gun comes close to even a relatively crappy 1911 trigger.

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As I said in my prior post, shooting my Glock(s) nearly ruined my SA trigger pull dexterity, muscle memory, whatever. Not complaining. Loved Glocks so much I walked away from 1911s. Yes, I did. My business. Get over it.

460 Shooter makes a very valid point on renting guns to try. $40 or $50 might save you hundreds in the long run.

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As I said in my prior post, shooting my Glock(s) nearly ruined my SA trigger pull dexterity, muscle memory, whatever. Not complaining. Loved Glocks so much I walked away from 1911s. Yes, I did. My business. Get over it.

460 Shooter makes a very valid point on renting guns to try. $40 or $50 might save you hundreds in the long run.

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do a hundred dry-fire trigger pulls to get the feel back on that 1911. do another hundred to get the glock trigger feel back. just another skill to add to the shooting bag.

luck,

murf

I have a glock 19 and a glock 30. the trigger pull is the same on both guns. if the glock grip suites you, that may work.

luck,

murf

460Shooter said:

Glocks are good guns in general, but there is so much variety out there I think it would behoove the OP to rent several, or at the very least handle a ton of the available models out there.

Some of us just don't like the feel or triggers on Glocks. There's no reason the OP should just drop coin to get his feet wet when most big box stores have several brands to at least try on. Also, the OP mentioned liking 1911s. I think a Glock trigger will be rather disappointing for him, thought IMO no plastic striker gun comes close to even a relatively crappy 1911 trigger.

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Did you read my initial response?

Another point...you do not buy a 4*4 truck to corner like a corvette. Don’t get a hankering for a plastic frame gun expecting it to feel like a nice 1911. It wont. And a guy who has 70 metal guns probably know this.

Also, if you have the money to buy and own 70 firearms, I suspect a new Glock isn’t gonna break your bank. And of all the plastics guns available today, in my experience, the Glock is probably the one you’ll lose the least money on if you decide you don’t like it.

So OP, you want a plastic gun? Get a 9MM Glock and give it a chance. By far, it is the most common 9MM in the world, used by good guys and bad guys alike in all corners of this globe.

IDGAF what anyone here says about bore axis, trigger, grip, feel, the Glock is to plastic guns as the Colt is to AR15’s....some do certain things better, but few do everything as well, including hold value.

Added: I didn’t mean for this post to have a negative tone, so apologies to anyone who may have been offended

Buzznrose said:

Did you read my initial response?

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Yes, but you seemed to backpedal on your last remark.

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Yes, but you seemed to backpedal on your last remark.

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Fair point...I did and meant to infer as much. The more i thought about it, the more I think that if a person is going to wade into the “plastic gun pool”, and they are already a pretty seasoned gun owner, I say might as well start out with the standard...a Glock.

P.s. “Standard “ does not mean “best”

I shoot heavy metal framed pistols for fun and I LOVE 1911's... but I carry plastic guns. "I" haven't come across a plastic gun that comes close to the trigger on a 1911.

The plastic gun that has really impressed me (very surprisingly) is my XD mod 2. "For me" it fist right, holds well, has a surprisingly good trigger for a striker fire and just feels right. I actually really enjoy shooting it... rather than just practicing with it because I carry it.



The best part about the XD mod 2 is they tell you right on the gun where to grip it... in case you forget.

There are MANY great plastic guns out there (not 1911's, but still good guns)... you just need to find the one that talks to YOU! As you (the OP) said in your own post... the 1911 with a flared mag well just fits your hand well. There is much more to the perfect gun (perfect gun for you) than a perfect trigger!

Can't really compare 1911 w any plastic gun's trigger in my relatively limited experience. My favorite plastic gun trigger is on the HK P2000 (.40). Teflon smooth SA take up and crisp break. My HKs are super reliable and quite a bit more accurate than my Glocks (out of the box w no mods).

My Walther Q5 Match has an Apex Trigger Kit in it, and a LOT of my Time polishing internals. It is not a 1911, but a long shot better than any other plastic gun I've ever handled. It is a pleasure to shoot!

Coming from someone who has fired a great variety of handguns, and still vastly prefers the 1911 trigger over all others, my recommendation is to try a Steyr. I have a few hundred rounds through this L9A1 at this point, and it's combination of trigger and sights is a winner.

Revolving Garbage

Coming from someone who has fired a great variety of handguns, and still vastly prefers the 1911 trigger over all others, my recommendation is to try a Steyr. I have a few hundred rounds through this L9A1 at this point, and it's combination of trigger and sights is a winner.

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I should have added my Steyr M9 to the list I had. Again not anywhere near to a quality 1911 trigger but pretty decent for a polymer frame gun (short take-up and a clean release with a quick reset. The trap sights take a little time getting use to but they're kind of neat to play with too!

DA/SA hammer fired - Bersa Thunder Pro XT

Striker fired - Canik TP9 series, the Elite or TP9SFx would be my choice

The 1911 platform will always be my favorite. I must confess after owning several Glocks for at least 30 years I found a winner, for me. About 2 years ago I bought a Glock 34 and experimented.
I swapped springs, polished components, etc.
It puts a smile on my face every time, resets quick, smooth pull. My local smith shot it on Saturday and he was impressed. That being said I have shot some relatively expensive weapons customized by Glock wizards and have been impressed.
I'm in the school of trying out as many guns as you can get your hands on. Find a winner and tune it.