If you had to add another chambering to the stable

Rifle 22 hornet. Pistol 10mm or 41 mag.

10MM, been debating on getting one for a few years now. But i do not want a glock or SA. and are not paying the price of the sig's. It will be a woods gun and will be beat to crap in a year.

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Robbins290 said:

10MM, been debating on getting one for a few years now. But i do not want a glock or SA. and are not paying the price of the sig's. It will be a woods gun and will be beat to crap in a year.

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What about a 1911? RIA makes a great 1911 in 10mm that offers shooters options not found on higher end guns. Like fully supported chambers, heavy profile barrels, better sights, and adjustable triggers.

BigBore44 said:

What about a 1911? RIA makes a great 1911 in 10mm that offers shooters options not found on higher end guns. Like fully supported chambers, heavy profile barrels, better sights, and adjustable triggers.

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I have heard of them. But never bothered researching them. Not sure if they will last like the higher end 10mm’s.

Pistol: .38 Super in an M1911
Rifle: 6.5mm Creedmore in a Savage 112BVSS or something similar

Pistol: A 1911 in .45 acp.

Rifle: 6.5 Creedmoor upper for my AR10.

I may pick up a .223 bolt action or single shot.

Recently picked up a 10MM pistol...long overdue but now I feel like I need to play catch-up on my ammo!!!

Robbins290 said:

10MM, been debating on getting one for a few years now. But i do not want a glock or SA. and are not paying the price of the sig's. It will be a woods gun and will be beat to crap in a year.

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Why not a Glock or SA? You don’t like striker fire guns?

Too bad. By your words, it will be a “woods gun”...”beat to crap in a year”...

As long as you put a little CLP on it, and short of purposeful misuse like dragging it behind a truck on a gravel road, there is no way you’ll noticeably hurt either a Glock or XDm in a year carrying it.

Buzznrose said:

Why not a Glock or SA? You don’t like striker fire guns?

Too bad. By your words, it will be a “woods gun”...”beat to crap in a year”...

As long as you put a little CLP on it, and short of purposeful misuse like dragging it behind a truck on a gravel road, there is no way you’ll noticeably hurt either a Glock or XDm in a year carrying it.

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I read the frames were not hardened on the RIA's. And as far as the SA's. I had 5 and they all had horrible groupings. Couldnt hit a 12" circle at 25 feet. Tried bench resting them, sent 2 back to the factory. They were horrible. I gave the first few a try. but 5 out of 5 with problems. Will never own another. And as far as glocks go. Got nothing against them. But i should not have to buy a aftermarket barrel to shoot cast bullets and have full chamber support.

And you are right, what ever i get will be used and abused and shot alot. So i doubt the frame will last on the RIA.

I'm still wondered what would make me "have" to add a caliber I don't already have. It's me making the decisions on what calibers I shoot and don't shoot. If I "wanted" to add a caliber I don't have it would probably be a 22 hornet for my contender, or maybe a 22WSM, or---O, pooey, I'm not up to making decisions like that this morning.

Robbins290 said:

And as far as glocks go. Got nothing against them. But i should not have to buy a aftermarket barrel to shoot cast bullets and have full chamber support.
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I understand.

To be clear, if you are talking about hard cast bullets, you can shoot them through a Glock barrel. The soft lead bullets are the problem with the polygonal rifled barrel.

I have heard some folks having issues with the 220 grain hard cast 10MM not stabilizing in Glocks, but the 200’s are normally fine. I’ve had zero issues with 200grain Underwood hardcast ammo in my stock G-20

As far as non-supported barrels, I don’t reload so I’m really not that concerned. If I was, I’d buy a KKM barrel, but I do understand the issue of not wanting to have to buy a barrel for a new gun.

10 mm
But 9 mm ammo is so seductively cheap and more practical....hence no 10 mm yet. But the thought of the power is seductive.

Robbins290 said:

I read the frames were not hardened on the RIA's.

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Frame - investment cast AISI4140 grade. Slide - milled out of extruded material AISI4140, heat treated then tempered 34-36HRc.

Unless you’re doing a 6 week pigeon shoot in Mexico 5 times a year with your 10mm, I think you’d be fine. But buy what you want. I’m a very happy RIA owner.

Big bore. How many rounds have gone down range from your ria in 10mm? And what kind of loads?

bussnoze, i was always told it was any lead bullet in the glocks. Soft or hard cast. The glock is tempting by 15 rounds. Thats alot of power.

Robbins290 said:

Big bore. How many rounds have gone down range from your ria in 10mm? And what kind of loads?

bussnoze, i was always told it was any lead bullet in the glocks. Soft or hard cast. The glock is tempting by 15 rounds. Thats alot of power.

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here are a couple good technical articles from Buffalo Bore owner Tim Sundles:

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=59

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=54

The man has been shooting, designing, and hunting big game with his high performance ammo for years and built a company known and relied on for ammo for dangerous game. He knows his stuff.

Robbins290,

With regards to the supported chamber issue, I just read this on the Buffalo Bore site in the .40S&W section:

“Glock happens to chamber their 40 S&W pistols without a fully supported chamber and both of those above safety notices are likely aimed at Glock. I know of no other 40 S&W handguns being sold in the US that doesn't have fully supported chambers. If you really want to shoot our 40S&W ammo in your Glock, have an aftermarket barrel that uses a supported chamber, dropped into it. This is a fairly common practice and will give you the safety margin needed to fire our ammo in your Glock. It will also likely give you more velocity than the factory Glock barrel. I personally own two Glock Model 23's. Both of mine are going to get aftermarket barrels dropped in so that I can use this excellent ammo in them. The issue of Glock pistols not having a fully supported chamber is with the 40 S&W cartridges only, not 45 ACP, 10mm, 9mm or 380 Auto. While Glocks chambers are not fully supported in any of those calibers, only the 40 S&W brass is weak enough in the web for it to be a safety issue. I REPEAT, only the 40 S&W is a safety issue with chambers that are not fully supported. You do not need to be concerned with this issue when using our 45acp+, 10mm, 380 auto+P or 9mm+P or +P+ ammunition in Glock pistols.”

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=116

Again, these are Mr. Sundles words, not mine, and I trust this man has shot and tested many more rounds of very hot ammo than most folks posting on the Internet, so I trust he knows what he’s talking about. But again, we all choose what works for us.

Good luck, regardless of what you choose.

Robbins290 said:

bussnoze, i was always told it was any lead bullet in the glocks. Soft or hard cast. The glock is tempting by 15 rounds. Thats alot of power.

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http://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...h-about-Glocks-and-Cast&highlight=cast+glocks

Yeah, I've also heard some ridiculous things in guns shops, too.

I would probably add a 6.5 mm Creedmore rifle to my gun safe.

Lotta talk about 10mm. I love my S&W revolvers, not so much the 1006.

But I bought a Glock 20 as a companion to my CMMG Banshee as they use the same clips.

Just added 6.5 Creedmore to the calibers I have in a Ruger Precision Rifle but haven't even tried it out yet.

148 posts later, and I have to ask....”Why”

Oh, well, I know we just like to hear ourselves talk about guns.