Junk? New Savage Bolt .22s

PapaG · Mar 2, 2023

Haven't had a Savage 22 that wasn't made before 1950. Had a few 99s, 110, 112, and a 220. All are fine guns.
For 22, and not being extravagant, I have a 1926 or so Win 52 that I paid $325 for a couple years ago. Shoots right along with my $450 CZ455 Varmint. My "highly end" 22 is a Ruger 10-22 that I bought new for $125, added a Kidd trigger for $125 from a buddy, a Shaw barrel with Bent chamber, $124, and a Ruger laminated target stock (gift from a friend). Scope, A 6-24X cost as much as the rest of the gun.
All three will go .25-.5" at fifty meters with Eley Club minimum. Federal auto match works for cheaper prsctice, especially if you sort rim thicknesses.

Starter52 · Mar 2, 2023

I've not had any extraction problems, but the last few Savage .22's I bought (Canadian made) were so stiff that I had to take a file to the receiver. The kids could not work the action without having to pound the bolt closed.

SwampWolf · Mar 2, 2023

JCooperfan1911 said:
I want a single shot .22 adult sized rifle and the only thing not made like “babies first gun”

If it were me, I'd be looking for a Winchester Model 67 or a Remington Model 514 at various used gun venues (gun shows, pawn shops or the internet).

45/30-06OKIE · Mar 2, 2023

Demi-human said:
Well, where did you hear that? I hear lots of things from lots of places all the time, I usually don’t give credence to the dim bulbs and click baits.

This is the Adult MKI, the FVT
https://www.savagearms.com/content?p=firearms&a=product_summary&s=28900

But I’m sure it hasn’t enough “walnut and blue”.
I know your style, and that it’s good. But CZ doesn’t make a single shot.
The good ones are here…
https://cz-usa.com/product-category/rifles/page/2/

Except I would not hesitate to buy a Savage.
After all, they make exactly what you want…

They are not junk. If old tech suits you better, , get a MKI, if pickup truck reliability is for you, the MKII. New tech your thing? Try a B-22.

Savages are very good, with little work they can be great.
Like this one. Thought it shot fine from the box, now it feels like my other rifles with the Boyd’s stock.

They are worth it.

My CZ 457 Pro Varmint came with the Boyds Tacticool laminate stock, is that what you have on your savage? I'm also eagerly awaiting my tax stamp for my SilencerCo Sparrow which should be back any day now. What suppressor are you running?

mavracer · Mar 3, 2023

BreechFace said:
Just posting my experiences, take it or not. Have at the Savages, they are not for me. And it was/is an obvious design weakness/flaw.

The OP asked about the Savage rimfires, I gave him my account. Or should this thread just be about good things about the Savage rimfires?

You can literally Google extraction issues for any rimfire and find examples.
One would think that if it were that big of problem a company like Tandemkross would offer an upgraded extractor like they do for many other rimfires, it's not like the savages aren't popular.
How can it be a design flaw when mine works perfectly and has nearly always been shot suppressed?

Demi-human · Mar 3, 2023

270OKIE said:
My CZ 457 Pro Varmint came with the Boyds Tacticool laminate stock, is that what you have on your savage? I'm also eagerly awaiting my tax stamp for my SilencerCo Sparrow which should be back any day now. What suppressor are you running?

I believe so. They call them the ProVarmint now. I think they changed the name to them as I ordered one. I received a ProVarmint, but remember the Tacticool name being off-putting even though that was the shape I wanted.

The suppressor is a form one. Thanks to the overreach by tyrants, it is no longer available.

You are going to love your CZ with a suppressor. I only remove mine for cleaning. There isn’t a reason to shoot a rimfire without one!

3Crows · Mar 3, 2023

I do not know about the subject rifle but my two Mark II rifles and my A17 are not junk. Neither is my Marlin 17 BTVS. They are inexpensive tube reciever rifles (not the A17) and function just fine and most shoot very well as do mine.

I am sure somebody could print a fake magazine that would act as a single loader platform for many rifles, even including a CZ.

2ndtimer · Mar 3, 2023

3Crows said:
I do not know about the subject rifle but my two Mark II rifles and my A17 are not junk. Neither is my Marlin 17 BTVS. They are inexpensive tube reciever rifles (not the A17) and function just fine and most shoot very well as do mine.

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I am sure somebody could print a fake magazine that would act as a single loader platform for many rifles, even including a CZ.

https://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=910403&CAT=4855

mshootnit · Mar 3, 2023

If I was goimg to get a bolt 22 it would be a sako or tikka or something like that.

Bottom Gun · Mar 4, 2023

mshootnit said:
If I was goimg to get a bolt 22 it would be a sako or tikka or something like that.

Some feel they have to settle for less because “it’s only a .22”.

It took me a while but I did finally discover that I enjoy shooting a high quality rimfire rifle quite a bit more than I enjoy shooting a WalMart grade rifle.

The Anschutz sporters do it for me.

I6turbo · Mar 4, 2023

Bottom Gun said:
Some feel they have to settle for less because “it’s only a .22”.

It took me a while but I did finally discover that I enjoy shooting a high quality rimfire rifle quite a bit more than I enjoy shooting a WalMart grade rifle.

I'm the same way with rifle or handgun, and also with scopes. And I would definitely do without quantity in order to maintain quality. I MUCH prefer operating and shooting a higher quality gun, regardless of what round the gun is chambered for. And I MUCH prefer looking through a quality scope, regardless of what gun it's on. In fact, if I'm to have what I feel is a marginal gun and/or marginal optics, I'd rather it be something I shoot a relatively few rounds per year (most of my centerfire rifles) than something I may shoot perhaps hundreds or thousands of rounds per year (such as one of my rimfires).

d2wing · Mar 4, 2023

I have 2 CZ 452's that I am very happy with, but I saw a new 457 Varmint on sale for $520.00 yesterday and I am seriously considering it. It has a 20 inch heavy barrel.

45/30-06OKIE · Mar 4, 2023

d2wing said:
I have 2 CZ 452's that I am very happy with, but I saw a new 457 Varmint on sale for $520.00 yesterday and I am seriously considering it. It has a 20 inch heavy barrel.

My 457 ProVarmint with the 16in bull barrel is a sweet rifle! You will like it a lot! I need to get a CZ in a bigger caliber to compare against my Remington and Mossbergs.

45/30-06OKIE · Mar 4, 2023

Demi-human said:
I believe so. They call them the ProVarmint now. I think they changed the name to them as I ordered one. I received a ProVarmint, but remember the Tacticool name being off-putting even though that was the shape I wanted.

The suppressor is a form one. Thanks to the overreach by tyrants, it is no longer available.

You are going to love your CZ with a suppressor. I only remove mine for cleaning. There isn’t a reason to shoot a rimfire without one!

Just got my approval this evening!

I6turbo · Mar 4, 2023

d2wing said:
I have 2 CZ 452's that I am very happy with, but I saw a new 457 Varmint on sale for $520.00 yesterday and I am seriously considering it. It has a 20 inch heavy barrel.

Depending upon what type of shooting you do, the even larger and heavier Varmint style CZ/BRNO guns might be worth considering. I have a bunch of CZs and BRNOs from the Scout up to the Model 4, and all in between including the 20" 452/453 Varmints. One of my 453 Varmints will almost shoot with the larger Model 4, but it's noticeably easier to get your best groups (or best accuracy) out of the Model 4 due to the size, weight, and how it rides the bags. As a result, I shoot more good groups with the Model 4.

Here's the Model 4 (2nd from bottom) next to the above-mentioned 453 (bottom). IIRC from handling a 457 Varmint, it's essentially the same size as the 452/453 Varmint. (The other two in the photo are 527 and 550 Varmints.)

Sistema1927 · Mar 4, 2023

This Mk II FVT is a tack driver. Love the trigger, and with the replacement stock it fits me to a T.

CraigC · Mar 5, 2023

Never heard them called junk before. I have three of them, two Mark II's and a 93 and they all shoot better than a rifle in that price range has a right to.

epags · Mar 5, 2023

JCooperfan1911 said:
I want a single shot .22 adult sized rifle and the only thing not made like “babies first gun” seems to be the Savage Mk I single shot which has an adult sized length of pull.....

zaitcev said:
.....If I wanted a single shot, I'd get a rolling block actually. Obviously it's not a gun for ultimate performance, so might as well buy a touch of class.......

Condider a Savage single shot, argumently a rolling block, Model 30 with octagonal barrel. No problems with extraction

wesmonster · Mar 7, 2023

Another option for a vintage single shot is a Mossberg 320. I have the same but branded as a Revelation 100.
Compared to my other rimfires it's a Full Sized stock with sling studs, grooved receiver for a scope mount and drilled for optional peep sights. Has a nice spring loaded ramp making loading with gloves or big ol' sausage fingers a breeze. Not as good a shooter as my Tikka T1x but beats the pants off my Ruger Am. rimfire and keeps up with my vintage Remingtons and Marlins.
Never owned a Savage but shot a few, quality is hit or miss but the good ones shoot VERY good. But also seems a lot of em need a bit of polishing or work for minor issues. At their price point I think they're a good starting point but anyone considering a $300 Savage probably isn't interested in a new Tikka or CZ.
I think for a new production single shot the MK I G is gonna check all of the OPs boxes.

wesmonster · Mar 7, 2023

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Caplock · Mar 7, 2023

I have a Savage fvsr. Plastic stock is a joke. Swapped for a tacticool and dip metal like everyone does. Never had a problem with extraction. Last round feeding from 10 round mags is what I have trouble with. She's ugly but shoots good.

I want to try a CZ cause they look so dang purdy.

Skylerbone · Mar 8, 2023

In the past 15 years I have purchased 2 Savage single-shot rifles, the Cub-T and a Rascal. Both were youth size but the Thumbhole Cub was not the pared down mini receiver seen on the Rascal, it was a full size E with the ability to interchange stocks. That was a rifle I planned to keep as my lightweight squirrel rig till Hell freezes over. I did eventually send it the way of the Rascal, to a deserving father without my level of expendable income and his children still frequently enjoy their Savages. Neither gave any hint of issue in all this time.

45/30-06OKIE · Mar 8, 2023

Caplock said:
I have a Savage fvsr. Plastic stock is a joke. Swapped for a tacticool and dip metal like everyone does. Never had a problem with extraction. Last round feeding from 10 round mags is what I have trouble with. She's ugly but shoots good.

I want to try a CZ cause they look so dang purdy.

You mean like this?
CZ 457 ProVarmint with my new SilencerCo Sparrow mounted on it.

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