10/22 20shots / 50yds

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Can't remember but someone posted 50yd rimfire targets. I thought my 10/22 LVT could do the so I bought some official targets. Had to test fire some guns for this weekend matches, weather was beautiful cept for the wind.
50yds, 10 shots each. One set CCI STD one set CCI MINI-MAG.
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Nice! The LVT is just a heavier barrel than a standard 10/22?

Just a tad heavier. It is a medium contour 20" target barrel with a target chamber and the BX trigger group. My trigger measures 2 1/2 lbs. They also have a sporter style stock. They are basically a light target rifle. LVT is short for (Light Varmint Target). Mine weighs 7 1/4 lbs with a scope on it.

Ruger® 10/22® Sporter Autoloading Rifle Model 31167

The newest version has a threaded barrel. Available in blue or SS. They made a limited run several years back and I've seen a couple recently. IMO this should be a regular production item for Ruger. I paid $385 for the newer version. Considering the BX trigger costs an additional $100 that isn't a bad price for what you get. If you can find one I highly recommend them.

A recent 100 yard target. On the left is my Tikka T1x, right target is my older LVT.

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10/22 can be accurized to shoot well.

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My 10/22 Collector #3 with fullsize modular stock and Volquartsen trigger kit (Sub 2.5 lb pull) with CPC reworked bolt can produce around 1.25" groups at 100 yards with stock barrel and "cheap" Aguila 40 gr CPRN - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...22lr-on-the-cheap.898035/page-2#post-12194385

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50yds, 10 shots each. One set CCI STD
Out of 30+ brands/weights/lots of "cheap" bulk ammunition tested, CCI SV consistently produced around 1/2" groups at 50 yards during the 10,000+ "real world" testing - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...22lr-on-the-cheap.898035/page-2#post-12304052

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Ive had a number of basically box stock 10/22's over the years, and they all shot well, right out of the box, and with generic ammo.

I also had a 77/22 that was pretty as hell, and all the 10/22's outshot it, and by a considerable margin, which always pissed me off, considering that the 77/22 cost considerably more. It sure was pretty though. :cool:
 
If you want to reduce group size, seriously consider replacing trigger/doing a trigger kit. My 10/22 came out of the box with 7.5 lb trigger that definitely affected group size. After 3500 rounds, reduced to 4.5 lbs but not ideal for precision target shooting. $43 Volquartsen trigger kit reduced trigger pull to less than 2.5 lbs for smooth hammer release that reduced group size (BTW, BX trigger will reduce trigger pull down to 2.5 - 3 lbs) - https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1004752381/

And if you are getting non-trigger related flyers, consider doing $50 CPC reworking of bolt to pin the firing pin and square the bolt face or getting $124 Power Custom Match CNC bolt that comes with pinned titanium firing pin and extractor - https://eabco.com/hybrid-match-ruger-10-22-bolt-accuracy-tuned/
 
Good shooting at 25 yards, but 50 yards is the generally-recognized distance to shoot .22 LR groups.

that statement reminds me of my local club that is so very focused on formal bullseye and rifle disciplnes... not everyone gives a crap about those practices and their standards ya know... just saying the folks are as bad as the "period correct" folk talking down to those who love the guns but dont care about "period correct" :p
 
I get what Picher says.
I can shoot one hole groups at 50ft with my pellet gun, one hole at 25yds with my .22, ragged hole with a occasional flier at 50yds.
The fliers don't show up at 25yds.
I shoot scored paper matches, I shoot steel plate matches. A clean score on either is different.
It's not being a purist, just a realist.
 
Lazy folks shooting in their backyard play around with 50 yard groups. If you really want to know how a 22LR is shooting, the targets need to be at 100yrds.

Anyone can play that game.

Frankly, some of the most precise 22LR shooting in the world happens at only 50ft, fired with monstrous Annie’s and Win 52’s. Note in this target, the center ring is the 9 ring, with the 10 DOT being about the size of the mark made if you hold a mechanical pencil vertically, and drop it straight down to bounce on the paper.

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Dispersion is dispersion. If you’re shooting 1/2moa at 25yrds, someone casting a stone about 50yrd shooting doesn’t have a leg to stand upon.
 
This target, shot at 50 yards, indicates close to the smallest dispersion to be expected by a semi-auto .22LR rifle...50 shots at 50 yards, plus sighters. Average group size for 50 rounds was .372". I haven't tried to better this result. It was a lot of shooting for one day and the weather was quite favorable. (Please excuse the fact that this target has been posted elsewhere.)

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Note in this target, the center ring is the 9 ring, with the 10 DOT being about the size of the mark made if you hold a mechanical pencil vertically, and drop it straight down to bounce on the paper.

Actually that's an A17 target, the center ring IS the 10 ring.
A36 and Air Rifle AR 5/10 targets have the micro dot 10
 
I get what Picher says.
I can shoot one hole groups at 50ft with my pellet gun, one hole at 25yds with my .22, ragged hole with a occasional flier at 50yds.
The fliers don't show up at 25yds.
I shoot scored paper matches, I shoot steel plate matches. A clean score on either is different.
It's not being a purist, just a realist.

Exactly!
 
If you’re shooting 1/2moa at 25yrds, someone casting a stone about 50yrd shooting doesn’t have a leg to stand upon.

Anyone can play that game.
So true.

When I started the "real world" 10,000 round 22LR ammunition journey, I was able to produce tight groups at 25 yards and was told to test at 50 yards. When I shot 50 yard groups (10 shot groups, not 5 shot groups ;)), Those "tight groups" grew to show input on trigger and flyers.

If you really want to know how a 22LR is shooting, the targets need to be at 100yrds
After Volquartsen trigger kit and bolt work/pinned CNC machined bolt, 50 yard groups shrank similar to my 25 yard groups. :p

But when I shot 100 yard groups, only ammunition that consistently produced tighter groups at 50 yards "grouped" consistently at 100 yards as higher muzzle velocity variance showed as vertical elongation and any input on trigger produced left/right "flyers". :D

No, there are no "flyers" ... just trigger/front rest/rear bag and stock input, muzzle velocity variance, barrel harmonics (ammunition selectiveness) and maybe "wind". ;)
 
Frankly, some of the most precise 22LR shooting in the world happens at only 50ft

Maybe.
I shoot 4 position 50' rimfire. Can shoot a clean 100 in prone. At 100 yds, same rifle, appropriate target way tougher. Not sure if that makes 50' more precise.
 
Lazy folks shooting in their backyard play around with 50 yard groups. If you really want to know how a 22LR is shooting, the targets need to be at 100yrds.

Anyone can play that game.

Frankly, some of the most precise 22LR shooting in the world happens at only 50ft, fired with monstrous Annie’s and Win 52’s. Note in this target, the center ring is the 9 ring, with the 10 DOT being about the size of the mark made if you hold a mechanical pencil vertically, and drop it straight down to bounce on the paper.

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Dispersion is dispersion. If you’re shooting 1/2moa at 25yrds, someone casting a stone about 50yrd shooting doesn’t have a leg to stand upon.

The problem with shooting .22LRs at distances other than 50 yards is this: At 25 yards, flyers aren't as noticeable. At 100 yards, wind plays heck with groups, so 50 yards is far enough to show critical variations in grouping, without showing wind deflection as too big a deal and it's hard to differentiate between ammo accuracy and the wind.
 
That was good shooting for a stock 10/22 . My 10/22 and 60 both like Wolf Match Extra ammo . I would do something with the trigger . I put a Volquartsen target hammer in mine for $35 dollars and that really improved the trigger .
 
Can't remember but someone posted 50yd rimfire targets. I thought my 10/22 LVT could do the so I bought some official targets. Had to test fire some guns for this weekend matches, weather was beautiful cept for the wind.
50yds, 10 shots each. One set CCI STD one set CCI MINI-MAG.
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LVTs are very nice. I picked one up a little while back. Here's a 5 shot group.

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I really like that "Man's Best Friend " rifle. I'm jealous!
Thank you. The full-size length-of-pull stock does help with shooting. The ghost ring sights, no. And factory picatinny rail had to be replaced with 20 MOA rail so not a plus.

Actually, Magpul stock would be a better option as forearm setup for bull barrel would free-float the standard barrel. But when PSA sold Collector #3 for $199, it was a killer deal.
 
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