I actually have ordered a pair of the Miculek grips. Who knows when they'll get here or if I'll like them, but I guess this grip in my original post is another option if I want to try another down the road, it looks a bit thicker than the Miculek grip. I tried Pachmyre Presentation grips, and it is comfortable, but huge and I notice a real difference in muzzle flip when them. I found a cheap set of target grips, plastic on ebay, and they are fine, but with the thumb rest, you can't use a speedloader, and same muzzle flip that makes double action much slower - and they are just too big as are the Pachmyre's I tried basically. The service grip, or diamond grips, the little ones that came on the 10-7, are the ones I went back to and use most, just - they aren't great, but they do work. High hold for double action and get the pinky up on the grip, single action, just let the pinky hang below the grip. Works decent, but I think I want a grip that is half way between those positions relative the muzzle/barrel and I can just use one grip for single and double action, and I guess I would prefer that, and just always grab it the exact same way. Maybe I'll try one of those grip adapters. Like the revolver just never really liked to grip it with any of the grips I've tried. I watched a video with Miculek talking about the grips and he says he wanted it all the same, same grip, regardless of model, K Frame, N Frame, whatever, same grip. Figure he must know a thing or two so, I'll try his grips and see.