Any opinions on the .30 Super Carry cartridge

Meh... half price gun then ammo that's 4x more?

More potent than .380, maybe up to the lower end of 9x19, more of 'em fit in the same space; on that basis a good idea.
Ammo cost changes that.
For reloaders who want to buy another set of dies, yeah, go for it.

Another flash-in-the-pan cartridge whose advantages are mostly theoretical and will be unobtainium in a couple years.

If you aren’t set up to reload for it then it shouldn’t even be a question.

That being said, if I remember correctly, you can swap out the slide for a 9mm version……so sorta two guns in one?

A caliber in search of a market.

I’d be interesting trying a 30 Super Carry if the gun was sized down for the smaller cartridge.

Not just stuffing a 30 SC barrel in a 9mm platform.

I wonder who is the "Father of 30 Super Carry?"

It gives you two extra rounds in a gun that would otherwise only give you 8 rounds.

The moped of modern handguns.

Might have less recoil than 9mm.
But if 9mm recoil is something that bothers you, you have larger issues than caliber selection.

Right now, buy all the ammo you ever intend to shoot in that caliber unless you don't care if ammo is unavailable in the near future, or you don't care ammo is unreasonably expensive in the near future.

If I were younger, I would buy a case of Gucci 30SC ammo.
Then I would sell it for unreasonable prices when it eventually is unobtainium.
But I'm too old to play those games now.
The only unobtanium thing I'm actually interested is that set of car keys I lost between the kitchen and the garage last month. I would pay someone $100 to find those keys for me now. Just so I could stop fretting about it.
I'll be dead or legally incompetent before my Gucci 30SC investment will ripen.

A reloaders round, if that.

I think only 2 things were chambered in it. A $$$ Nighthawk and the OP's find. It isn't a horrible idea, but got little to no support and pistols weren't designed around the round to max any gain which could have been there.

If I fell into one silly cheap with a case of ammo, I would think about it, if I could get dies for it.

Prices of ammunition have come down dramatically since it first debuted two years ago. I’m very fond of mine.
I bought a second on the beliefs of some that it will disappear. Such would make it an immediate collector’s item. I also got a deal on extra magazines.
But, at the present, no signs of its going away are present..
As seen in my avatar, it’s a tackdriver. Besides, I haven’t had any one volunteer to be shot by it…
Ballistic gel testing shows it generally performs on par with the 9mm.
Loading data allows me to run it nearly 100fps above already hot factory ammo.
AFAIC, it’s the real deal. I do wish someone would make M1911 conversion kit of slide, barrel, and magazines to convert a M1911 to .30SuperCarry.

Ohen Cepel said:

A reloaders round, if that.

I think only 2 things were chambered in it. A $$$ Nighthawk and the OP's find. It isn't a horrible idea, but got little to no support and pistols weren't designed around the round to max any gain which could have been there.

If I fell into one silly cheap with a case of ammo, I would think about it, if I could get dies for it.

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You can make your own dies outa a few other caliber dies if you really want…….

My present hideout guns are 5, 6, and 7 shooters.
A 13 shot sounds like an upgrade.
A case of hardball and a case of hollow point would last a good while in a gun shot for quarterly familiarization.

Its the only ammo I recall seeing in any numbers in fall, 2020 at Sportsman's Warehouse in Carson City, Nv. I think that was a sign that few had one back then, and I don’t believe a whole lot has changed since then.

Here in Ca, I seriously can’t recall even seeing ammo for it on the shelf, as I don’t know if folks can even buy a .30 SC handgun over the counter. (Don’t know if either of those guns are on the ridiculous “DOJ safe handgun roster.”)

Neat idea for a little gun like an LCP or LCP Max, but in a 9mm sized gun I’m not too taken with the caliber. YMMV.

Stay safe.

If the cartridge is as accurate as GooseGestapo has talked about it's got my attention, but not in the Nighthawk or M&P. Now, Avidity Arms announced before SHOT they were also going to be making a .30 Super that holds 12 rds and that is a very flat pistol which intrigues me, but before I'm sold on the .30 Super I need to see a full size doublestack to see if the capacity of a flush fit mag in something the size of a Glock 19 can hit 20 rds or more.

When am I going to need 20 rds or more in a compact pistol? IDK, but I like the idea because the 8mm caliber is about as small a bullet diameter we can get in a straight wall case until performance in pistols is reduced to a level of clearly reduced effectiveness.

If more pistols made for it came out, made for that round, then I may change my opinion some. May even buy one then. However, little gain for me now and I have enough odd things I load for now..........

Go for it. Shoot and enjoy it.

Wolfsbane said:

Any opinions on the .30 Super cartridge?

Came across an ad for a S&W M&P in .30 Super Carry that's about half the price of M&Ps chambered in larger rounds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30_Super_Carry

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It won’t make it and I’ll have a box on my shelf to show future generations a failed cartridge design

It might be quite popular during the next ammo panic.

How much is half price? I would pay $200 for the novelty but not much more. I prefer big bullets (45 acp) in a carry gun so I doubt I would ever carry it.

Wolfsbane said:

Came across an ad for a S&W M&P in .30 Super Carry that's about half the price of M&Ps chambered in larger rounds.

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GooseGestapo said:

Prices of ammunition have come down dramatically since it first debuted two years ago. I’m very fond of mine.
I bought a second on the beliefs of some that it will disappear. Such would make it an immediate collector’s item. I also got a deal on extra magazines.
But, at the present, no signs of its going away are present..
As seen in my avatar, it’s a tackdriver. Besides, I haven’t had any one volunteer to be shot by it…
Ballistic gel testing shows it generally performs on par with the 9mm.
Loading data allows me to run it nearly 100fps above already hot factory ammo.
AFAIC, it’s the real deal. I do wish someone would make M1911 conversion kit of slide, barrel, and magazines to convert a M1911 to .30SuperCarry.

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MikeInOr said:

How much is half price?

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Looks like the perfect opportunity for those that believe two is one and one is none.

Available ammo is currently cheaper than something like .32 H&R mag. If one wanted to dive in, they could stockpile some .30 SC ammo for cheaper than getting in on the .32 H&R trend that is currently ongoing.

Kleanbore said:

Half price? It would be for self defense. The stakes are extremely high. The price tag is not a significant consideration.

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Price is always a consideration for workin' stiffs. Of course, .30 SC might not be a workin' stiff cartridge for very much longer.

At Target Sports, .30 SC Blazer FMJ is 46¢ a pop, Gold Dot is $1.35.
9mm is 26¢ for Blazer FMJ, 68¢ for Gold Dot

Not the cheapest, Ammoseek finds it here and there for 30¢ and 99¢.