7.62 Yahweh cartridge, is anyone familiar with it?

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Has the gr of H20 case capacity been stated yet?

That would seem like a pretty standard measurement to establish during carrrudge development.
 
Not explicitly I don't believe so, but it was said he used 6PPC cases which are 30gr water capacity, and gained 5-8gr of capacity with his cartridge. So I presumed at best it's 38gr H20 capacity.
 
Not explicitly I don't believe so, but it was said he used 6PPC cases which are 30gr water capacity

I'm showing 33.2grn for PPC water capacity. He's stated 5-8grn of POWDER, not water. Estimating he's in the ballpark of Leverevolution, 5-8grn of powder capacity is around 7.5-12grn H2O capacity... Which in fairness, that IS about how much capacity I calculated it would take to get that speed with that bullet....

So we remain left wondering how we can blow out a 35.8grn H2O cartridge by 33.5% to achieve that increase, when NO OTHER fireformed wildcat which blows out case taper has added so much proportionate case capacity, especially in mini-length cartridges...
 
I'm showing 33.2grn for PPC water capacity. He's stated 5-8grn of POWDER, not water. Estimating he's in the ballpark of Leverevolution, 5-8grn of powder capacity is around 7.5-12grn H2O capacity... Which in fairness, that IS about how much capacity I calculated it would take to get that speed with that bullet....

So we remain left wondering how we can blow out a 35.8grn H2O cartridge by 33.5% to achieve that increase, when NO OTHER fireformed wildcat which blows out case taper has added so much proportionate case capacity, especially in mini-length cartridges...
Let's just wait and see a video of this cartridge in a real firearm shot over a chronograph or better yet in front of the new Garmin.

Let's not hold our breath tho.
 
I don't mind the name. Just means Jehovah. What I do mind is the lack of info on this new development. Will it work in the SKS, AK Style, or bolt guns? Sure would make my CZ a much more powerful rifle.
I can't imagine a modified case configuration would do magazine function any favors. Especially one as curved as a x39. The best thing about AKs is the magazine.
 
The rifle cartridge is at Grendel pressures and it isn’t stressed. Please pay attention! I have found is that the Yahweh cartridge with Speer 150 grain Gold Dots drops deer in their tracks and my M1 Grand with 165 grain Nosler Ballistic tips let’s them run and always into the worst possible places this is counter intuitive but reality, and my Pastor has had similar results. Remember it is not over pressured and I have H P White laboratories paper work to prove it and they’re one of the worlds best ballistic laboratories.

Is the difference in performance on deer due to the cartridge, bullet, or shot placement? You have not isolated the variables to the level that we can tell.

I can say, I have a bud who hunts with a 165 Hornady SST in a 308 Win. When he hits the deer behind the shoulder, they run off, and he does not find them till next morning, all eaten by coyotes. But, with the same rig, if he aims between the shoulder and neck, the deer goes down on the spot. The difference is, there is enough meat and bone to cause the bullet to upset in the neck/shoulder area. The rib shots just poke a hole.

When I hear a youtube presenter stating the bullet is going 500 fps faster than the Russian round, the only way to do that is a considerable increase in powder, or pressure. I did look at your internet data, and saw everything was 40 k psia, but I did not compare velocities to the Russian round.
 
Is the difference in performance on deer due to the cartridge, bullet, or shot placement? You have not isolated the variables to the level that we can tell.

I can say, I have a bud who hunts with a 165 Hornady SST in a 308 Win. When he hits the deer behind the shoulder, they run off, and he does not find them till next morning, all eaten by coyotes. But, with the same rig, if he aims between the shoulder and neck, the deer goes down on the spot. The difference is, there is enough meat and bone to cause the bullet to upset in the neck/shoulder area. The rib shots just poke a hole.

When I hear a youtube presenter stating the bullet is going 500 fps faster than the Russian round, the only way to do that is a considerable increase in powder, or pressure. I did look at your internet data, and saw everything was 40 k psia, but I did not compare velocities to the Russian round.
Am I wrong to think it sounds like a bullet or shot placement problem and not a cartridge problem his pastor is having?
 
There is no free lunch on pressure and velocity, although some cartridges are more efficient than others.

A 150 Gr bullet doesn't care what cartridge it was fired from, it needs to hit something tough enough to
make it expand in it's designed FPS window, and it needs to be in a spot that can kill the game.

There are no magic beans.
 
Which wildcat was that?

Are you being argumentative again? or is your memory failing?

Robert Hutton, the publisher, claimed to have invented the round that became the 5.56 Nato in this article:

1971 Guns & Ammo The 223 is here to stay

Find it, read it, learn it, live it.
 
Have anyone asked him what powder he's using? Commercial, commonly available, proprietary, 'Special Blend', Divine Secret, etc?

I'd liked to know.
 
The only thing I recall from that era was him bragging about blending powder on the firing line: “The .222 load that penetrated an army helmet is classified”.
 
Getting 2650 with a 150 out of a blown out shoulder on a 35.8grn H2O case at 40kpsi is so unbelievable that it’s… unbelievable…
I'm not the ballistician so many of you are, all I know is that he published

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So is he truthin' or lyin'?
H.P. White, or the "strain gauge man," or fabrication?

Still haven't got that case drawing, or a measured capacity, though.
 
Am I wrong to think it sounds like a bullet or shot placement problem and not a cartridge problem his pastor is having?
My pastor in Not having shot placement problems his deer are not even taking one step they are just dropping like a stone in their tracks and I have had similar results with the gold dots and for your information I was working on my distinguished expert medal in small bore when I quit and I have shot the 2, 3, 600 yd national match course many times so I’m not a bad shot
 
I'm not the ballistician so many of you are, all I know is that he published

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So is he truthin' or lyin'?
H.P. White, or the "strain gauge man," or fabrication?

Still haven't got that case drawing, or a measured capacity, though.
Haven't gotten COAL, bullet make, what firearm it was tested in, what cartridge case was used, what primer was used. All we have is what is on the website and whats been said here.
 
My pastor in Not having shot placement problems his deer are not even taking one step they are just dropping like a stone in their tracks and I have had similar results with the gold dots and for your information I was working on my distinguished expert medal in small bore when I quit and I have shot the 2, 3, 600 yd national match course many times so I’m not a bad shot

ok but why would your round kill any better than any other 30 cal bullet, traveling at similar velocity? My .308 is sighted in with Hornady American Interlock with advertised velocity of 2830 at the muzzle and my 30-06 is sighted in with Remington Core-lokt advertised to be traveling at 2910 at the muzzle ... both drop deer like a remote control.

IF your pastor is having deer run off prior to using your cartridge, theres a something missing from what you are saying, or its one or a combination of things... Like, Bullet not performing, or poor shot placement.
 
My pastor in Not having shot placement problems his deer are not even taking one step they are just dropping like a stone in their tracks and I have had similar results with the gold dots and for your information I was working on my distinguished expert medal in small bore when I quit and I have shot the 2, 3, 600 yd national match course many times so I’m not a bad shot
If shot placement is not the issue, could it then be the bullet? After all, the bullet does the Work.
 
If this new round kills deer better than a 30-06 it must be divine intervention.

I think I might be a believer ;)
I don’t know why that is but that is the truth and the 30-06 doesn’t drop the blachtail deer in their tracks besides they always run into worst possible places to get them out of.
 
It sounds like an issue with a bullet that's too light, it is overpenetrating. I'd do a heavier bullet at slower velocity.

Can you chamber a Mini-30 in this cartridge?
 
....or the deer's adrenaline is up from being chased through a swamp. I put a 165 gr. Partition through the aorta of a buck at 75 yards; it took off like a bat out of hell, ran 75 yards,  and layed down under a log to be found the next morning when the search was resumed. (I shot it just before dusk)
 
Smash up the frame or blow big enough holes( which the heavier 30 cals are good at) and they usually pile up.......still ive needed to shatter enough critters pelvic bones that i don't expect any single shot to be the end of the conversation.......

Im still curious about the case volume and a diagram....im having a hard time visualizing the cartridge and equating it to the expected performance.
 
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