Difficult time shooting Glock 19 accurately.. tips?

I'm mainly a 1911 shooter as well and I don't seem to have any trouble with the 19. I bought an older used model with the half-moon cut in the bottom front of the grip. I changed the sights out to three dot night sight, put in the #3 connector, and added a Pierce grip enhancer. Now I could shoot this one fine before the mods, but I do shoot it better post mods. I've used it in our IDPA matches pretty successfully. I shoot the 19 better than my XD9. I would suggest my mods to the 19 with the #3 connector and maybe the sights first. The stock Glock sights have never been appealing to me. YMMV

Andrewshogun - I have the same problem you do. I recently got a G19 and, although I love the size and feel, I'm finding out that I just can't get it to group well. I can kick it's ass with any of my other 9mm's. By a lot.

Now here's the interesting part: I have a G22 that I can shoot very well although I put a KKM match barrel in it. So I know Glocks can be accurate and I know that I can shoot them accurately. I have also switched out the stock barrel on my G19 with a KKM match barrel and it didn't change anything. I switched back to the stock one.

I can't believe that the gun is that inaccurate with two different barrels because the groups are nearly identical = about 2X the size of my other 9's. It's has to be me.

I'll try some of the tips on this thread and see if my results change. Thanks.

I have several Glocks. They are not exactly what I would call accurate pieces. Any SiG will outperform them in this category, all day, every day...

That said, I genuinely like my G22...

No whining!

All the Glocks point high for me. 1911's and SIGs work great for me in terms of grip angle.

However, I still shoot the Glock really, really well.

There is no excuse for failing like this...including "pointability" and "grip angle". If you are using these as an excuse, then you are inventing a crutch to justify your failure. I got over my Glock problems by applying the fundamentals consistently across thousands of rounds and many, many hours of CORRECT dry fire.

You need to dry fire CORRECTLY and then validate that work on the range. The fastest way to do this is to hire an instructor for several one hour shooting sessions. After that, attend a defensive pistol course. Maintain your skill by shooting any 22 caliber handgun.

If I can do it, you can do it. This isn't magic or rocket science. You only need to purchase ammunition and range lessons. No "match barrel" and "super-dooper trigger job" is going to help you (but you'll feel better about the WOW! factor).

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downrange.tv has "The Wall Drill" and "The Bump Drill" ... you should watch them.

Don't know why this is a difficult question, or even a question at all: Glock triggers suck, at least by any standard definition of a "good" trigger. This generally does not matter, IMO, considering the Glock's intended mission.

I am told that, with extensive practice, the Glock trigger can be mastered. Life is too short, as far as I am concerned, but there you go.

I like my G19's and I think they are accurate.

If you are having problems hitting anything with yours, try the longer 33 round magazine. I'm sure with 33 rounds you'll hit something.

Oh stop! No one has a hard time shooting a G19. I've seen females who are interested in SD come into a range and shoot tight groups with a G19. I'm calling you out on this thread. Any trained shooter kicks arse with the G19.

The End.

Fanboys are funny.

.38 Special said:

Fanboys are funny.

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Wow! You guys must be really bad shooters if you cannot get a Glock trigger to perform.

And, no, I don't "like" Glocks. They don't point well for me and the grips aren't all that great. Overcoming this was not difficult, though people on forums sure seem to make a big deal out of it.

Granted, a distinction between combat and target shooting should be made. If you're expecting something suitable for NRA Bullseye, then you're using the wrong gun. But, there's no reason why a person couldn't pickup a Glock and get two inch groups with it.

It's not about being a "fanboy"...it's about being sufficiently trained that one can pick up any pistol and use it. Apparently, this is a bit much to expect. Given that I see guys at the NRA Range shooting $2000 rifles from the bench and getting four inch groups at 25 or 50 yards, I guess I should not really expect much in terms of performance.

I had the same problem with my G19, but it was me not the gun, as my wife could shoot it fine. I got rid of the G19 and went with a CZ75 P01 which I shot better right out of the box. I sold my G19 and now own 3 CZs. That said, I've seem plenty of good shooting by guys with their G19s at IDPA matches.

Take your time and pay attention to what you are doing. You will soon learn to group with it.

Gee Crebralfix, you've been around The High Road long enough to know that there's no need to make disparaging comments about fellow members capabilities just to try and make a point.

The OP and a few others, including me, are asking for comments and sharing their experiences with the G19. Why assume and assert that we're all un-trained, lousy shots?

I shoot almost exclusively at 25 yards offhand - except for defensive drills and sight-ins which usually occur at 10 yards or less. Here are a few (I have many more examples) of my most recent targets from my last range session with the particular pistol represented. Both the targets for the G22 (please note the "G" stands for Glock and the SIG 226 .40 were shot the same session.

I shoot as well regularly with all my other pistols except my G19. I admitted that it is probably me. Thanks to those who have made constructive comments.

I don't like Glocks in the slightest, but they can be superbly accurate if you can get used to the trigger - which is really only going to come through decent practice.

Wow! You guys must be really bad shooters if you cannot get a Glock trigger to perform.

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I'm rated "master" in NRA action shooting. This is not meant as a boast as there are a lot of people who can outshoot me, but merely to explain that I'm not completely useless with a handgun. And I don't shoot Glocks well because the triggers make things much harder than they need to be.

This does not mean, BTW, that I cannot hit the B-27 at 7 yards, or anything like that, but that, on a standard slowfire target, I am putting rounds into the eight ring that would be nines and tens with a good trigger. Or that I have to go a half-second slower on the falling plates or risk misses.

Does this make the Glock a bad pistol, or one that is unsuitable for combat? Of course not. It simply means that I, like a lot of people, hit better and/or faster with most other guns. Nor does it mean that the Glock trigger cannot be mastered, as plenty of people have shown that it can. But then, through long practice as a young boy I mastered the long, creepy 12 pound trigger on my first .22 rifle. That doesn't mean it's a good thing, or that such triggers should be considered acceptable.

YMM, of course, V.

Don't shoot anything else for several 100 rounds -- until you get use to it & develop some muscle memory with it. Stick to one brand of ball ammo so the only variance you have to master is you
congrats & have fun!

10-Ring - I think this is exactly what I need to do. I've only sold 2 guns in my life and I ain't selling the G19!

And +1 to .38 Special.

Buy an Advantage Arms .22LR Conversion Kit for your 19 and get in a lot of CHEAP practice.
I have 2 kits, one for a 19/23 and a 21 and I love them.They have made me a better shooter with the Glocks.
I had a hard time at first because I have been shooting 1911's most of my life(72 yrs old now) but now things are much better.

This isn't a "High Road" Politically Correct answer. If you cannot handle it, move on.

The OP and a few others, including me, are asking for comments and sharing their experiences with the G19. Why assume and assert that we're all un-trained, lousy shots?

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Several people have stated, in their own words, that they are lousy shots.

They may be decent shooters with one particular platform, but their skill level is such that they do not have the mental and/or physical understanding of a variety of guns. This tells me their skills are lacking in one or more of the fundamental areas of handgun shooting.

So, again, we're back to the failure of the shooter to understand and use the gun as intended. Competition guns are not combat guns. (I'm defining a competition gun as one expressly built for that purpose, which includes heavily modified combat guns). The Glock is a combat handgun that happens to be used in some "combat" competition games (and not the other way around, though some argument could be made about the 17L, 34, and 35 models).

Why can't people figure this out? It's just not that hard. If you want tiny groups, use the correct competition tool created for that purpose. I certainly wouldn't take my Glock 21 and an Advantage Arms 22 Conversion kit to an NRA Bullseye Competition. Additionally, don't take your competition gun to a fight.

How can someone be considered a master in handgunnery if they cannot use any handgun well? Specifically, "action handgun" implies some sort of loosely combat oriented discipline. You should be able to pick up any handgun and do well with it. If you cannot get a 2-4 inch group with a Glock, SIG, S&W revolver, Kel Tec (or any other gun), then you have some "fundamentals" work to do. Dependence upon a particular trigger or other gadget just means you're a trying to purchase a better score ("gaming"). But, to say you cannot shoot it well simply due to one or two factors reeks of incompetence (from previous posters' words, not mine) based upon a lack of practice and forethought about handgunning.

My old "shootin' towel" listed a whole bunch of shooting excuses: "FARTED", "FLY on the front sight", "DRUNK", and so forth. That's all they are: excuses! I have seen it a hundred times, both in preparing for competition and defensive handgun training. When people start whining on forums like this, it's because they're refusing to admit their failure on the range.

It takes some getting used to. One thing to consider Glocks weigh at 22-35 ounces. Not a lot of people are used to the light weight.

Just take your time slowly pulling the trigger...or have another person try it out.

I have no trouble shooting 10 shots at 25 yards....and I shoot .40S&W!!!

Try A Laser...

In good hands, Judy's 3rd gen G19 is a tack driver. I can center-core targets with it all day long.

Even when I'm having a sucko day with other guns, I can produce great targets with her G19.

Want to fast-track your shooting with this gun? Slip a well collimated laser on or in it, and you'll work the kinks out in one or two range sessions. I'll bet you'll be surprised at what your hands are really doing!

I saw Judy straighten a new shooter out in one magazine's worth of shooting, with her LaserMax-equipped G19. And I'm not talking laser targeting, I'm talking about the laser as a training aid. This gal's hands were all over the place. She was sometimes missing the entire target! The laser describes the smallest hand movements, and she could see it. It's instinctive, like catching a ball, when you can see it. That revelation straightened her right out!

When we left, most of this young lady's shots were in the nine ring or better!

--Ray

This isn't a "High Road" Politically Correct answer. If you cannot handle it, move on.

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There's a difference between being politically correct and ill-mannered. I'd say you really need to work on your "fundamentals".

When people start whining on forums like this, it's because they're refusing to admit their failure on the range.

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What on earth are you talking about?

Oh, and nice shootin' Count.

Several people have stated, in their own words, that they are lousy shots.

They may be decent shooters with one particular platform, but their skill level is such that they do not have the mental and/or physical understanding of a variety of guns. This tells me their skills are lacking in one or more of the fundamental areas of handgun shooting.

So, again, we're back to the failure of the shooter to understand and use the gun as intended. Competition guns are not combat guns. (I'm defining a competition gun as one expressly built for that purpose, which includes heavily modified combat guns). The Glock is a combat handgun that happens to be used in some "combat" competition games (and not the other way around, though some argument could be made about the 17L, 34, and 35 models).

Why can't people figure this out? It's just not that hard. If you want tiny groups, use the correct competition tool created for that purpose. I certainly wouldn't take my Glock 21 and an Advantage Arms 22 Conversion kit to an NRA Bullseye Competition. Additionally, don't take your competition gun to a fight.

How can someone be considered a master in handgunnery if they cannot use any handgun well? Specifically, "action handgun" implies some sort of loosely combat oriented discipline. You should be able to pick up any handgun and do well with it. If you cannot get a 2-4 inch group with a Glock, SIG, S&W revolver, Kel Tec (or any other gun), then you have some "fundamentals" work to do. Dependence upon a particular trigger or other gadget just means you're a trying to purchase a better score ("gaming"). But, to say you cannot shoot it well simply due to one or two factors reeks of incompetence (from previous posters' words, not mine) based upon a lack of practice and forethought about handgunning.

My old "shootin' towel" listed a whole bunch of shooting excuses: "FARTED", "FLY on the front sight", "DRUNK", and so forth. That's all they are: excuses! I have seen it a hundred times, both in preparing for competition and defensive handgun training. When people start whining on forums like this, it's because they're refusing to admit their failure on the range.

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"It doesn't have to be accurate; it's for COMBAT!!! If you wanted an accurate gun, you should have BOUGHT one!" LMAO.

But then I see that you're coming from the point of view that 4" groups -- presumably at "combat" ranges -- are perfectly fine. So yes, in that light I admit that it does not matter how bad your trigger is.

I'm best shooting 1911's, CZs, and even XDs. But for the life in me, I cannot shoot the Glock 19.

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You are comparing apples and oranges, I shoot angle gripped weapons like the Ruger standard and the G32 with ease.
If I dont shoot a platform like my Colt 1911 MIM well I practice till I get proficient. I do this with all my weapon systems.

All the help i might give has already been given Slow down , and front sight . put a snap cap in and just work the hell out of it . A glock trigger is like no other ( and frankly i dont own glocks partly due to the trigger . ) . However you can learn to shoot it , i just dislike glocks so i wont put a lot of effort into them . The local pd issues glocks for them who cannot afford a pistol that meets the loose guidelines they have . Loose is a good thing btw lol . however if you cannot afford a pistol you will be issued a glock , and a level 3 holster to wear . You may get a ,40 or a 9mm but you will get a glock and a holster lol .