Is this homemade holster IDPA legal?

FatPants · Mar 7, 2011

I've read the rulebook, and I'm getting the feeling that this holster would be considered an offset holster by IDPA standards. It retains the gun very well, but I had to bend it out just a little so the bottom screw wouldn't rub the side of the gun.

The rulebook states that there can be no gap:
1. From the body to the inside of the belt.
2. From the outside of the belt to the inside of the
backpiece and/or backside of the holster.
3. From the outside of the back-piece to the inside
of the holster.

Would this be considered an "offset back piece"?

It does not state that there cannot be gap from the inside of the holster to the firearm.

Thoughts? Opinions?

Ignore the kydex shavings on my carpet. I got motivated late tonight, I'll vacuum it up in the morning...lol

I think I know the answer, any suggestions on how I can attach the holster to the paddle in a way that will not mar up the side of the gun, and keep it legal?

dhfenno · Mar 8, 2011

I don't think the holster part is the problem. I think it's the paddle that will cause you problems.
I think if you attach the paddle to the holster in a way that eliminates the offset in the paddle you would be fine.
Here's a link to another paddle and you can see the paddle attaches like yours with screws but goes straight down rather than having what looks like at least an inch of space between the back of the holster and the paddle.

http://www.blade-tech.com/Paddle-Holster-pr-876.html#product_images

Hope this helps.

Bovice · Mar 8, 2011

Looks fine to me, boss. I'm guessing that the paddle is going inside your pants, correct? If so, the offset is going to be essentially zero. I'd say it's legal.

Nice holster, by the way. I usually don't go for kydex, I stick to leather. But that's a good one.

mc223 · Mar 8, 2011

Is ther a retention rule in iDPA like IPSC.

FatPants · Mar 8, 2011

dhfenno said:
I don't think the holster part is the problem. I think it's the paddle that will cause you problems.
I think if you attach the paddle to the holster in a way that eliminates the offset in the paddle you would be fine.
Here's a link to another paddle and you can see the paddle attaches like yours with screws but goes straight down rather than having what looks like at least an inch of space between the back of the holster and the paddle.

http://www.blade-tech.com/Paddle-Holster-pr-876.html#product_images

Hope this helps.

My holster uses the same bladetech paddle as those pictured. When wearing the holster, the only gap is 1/4" from the inside of the holster, to the slide of the gun.

ny32182 · Mar 8, 2011

Offset-wise, I think you'd probably be ok with 99% of the MD's out there....

You may want to check the measurement between the (I believe it is) the top/front of the holster and the breechface.

ny32182 · Mar 8, 2011

Also, the retention rule is that with the gun loaded to division capacity, you can put it in the holster, flip the holster upside down, and the gun doesn't fall out. Same thing with the mag carriers.

FatPants · Mar 8, 2011

ny32182 said:
Offset-wise, I think you'd probably be ok with 99% of the MD's out there....

You may want to check the measurement between the (I believe it is) the top/front of the holster and the breechface.

Good to go in that respect. It's just over an inch from the breech face, rules state it cannot be cut any further that 1 3/4" from the breech face.

dhfenno · Mar 8, 2011

"Also, the retention rule is that with the gun loaded to division capacity, you can put it in the holster, flip the holster upside down, and the gun doesn't fall out. Same thing with the mag carriers."

Where did you find this rule?

ny32182 · Mar 8, 2011

Now reviewing the requirements, I can actually only find the upside down statement spelled out that specifically for the mag carriers. For the holster itself the statment is:

"E. Must hold the firearm with enough tension to allow the
wearer to complete normal daily tasks without fear of losing
the weapon."

Since that is subjective I guess you can have whatever tension you like. Sorry for the confusion.

Red Cent · Mar 8, 2011

Ain't no way that would be technically legal. If the belt fits on the inside of the "crowbar" shaped belt loop, the inside butt of the pistol is way over 3/4" from the body.

F. Can have no offset backpieces and/or belt slots. The holster
may not offset away from the belt and/or body. No gap is
permitted in the following areas:
1. From the body to the inside of the belt.
2. From the outside of the belt to the inside of the
backpiece and/or backside of the holster.
3. From the outside of the backpiece to the inside of
the holster.
If you look through the belt slot area of the holster with it on
the belt/body, you should not be able to see any daylight. If
you can see through this belt tunnel area, the holster is not
approved.

RH45 · Mar 8, 2011

I think that if you can see any light between you, and the holster, and you are at a major match, it will be a no-go.

As far as retention rules go, there USED to be one for USPSA, but, not anymore.

FatPants · Mar 8, 2011

RH45 said:
I think that if you can see any light between you, and the holster, and you are at a major match, it will be a no-go.

As far as retention rules go, there USED to be one for USPSA, but, not anymore.

There is no light between me and the holster, but there is light between the holster and the gun.

Red Cent · Mar 9, 2011

Same difference. A knowledgeable and nice RO

would suggest another holster for next time

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