shooting sling questions with photo this time

knzn · Jan 13, 2004

shooting sling question

My Grandfather used to shoot various small bore competions with his Winchester 52 and BSA Martini. I was going throug some of his stuff that was past down to me and found his shooting sling. Trouble is, I can not figure out how to attach it to a rifle! It is in four seperate pieces (those of you that know about it will know what I am talking about,) and I can not make heads or tails of it. One piece is a thickly padded cuff and the other pieces are leather with two rows of holes punched for adjusting.

I am hoping someone could perhaps direct me to a picture somewhere of one of these types of slings assembled on a rifle. I had done a search engine search to no avail. Thank you!
Bill

P95Carry · Jan 13, 2004

knzn ... I do not have a clear mental picture at all .. a pic from you would help a lot.

If however you find it hard to recognize ... then it is obviously not appearing ''traditional'' ...... makes me wonder if it is a single point sling.

Just in case ... here is a pic (hoping I can find it) I took of me hooking my single point up to a an old Turk ... plus a pic of sling itself .... this is a modern one made out of synthetic webbing.

It goes round the upper arm weak side and attaches thru one hook to front sling swivel (basically!).

Steve Smith · Jan 13, 2004

There are perhaps 200 different types of slings for match rifles, if one counts the slings back to the 30's. Without pictures, we have no idea what it looks like and how to help. Short of that, here are some starters.

There should be a rail inletted into the stock of the rifle. A handstop, either push button or screw type allow the handstop to be connected to the rail. The cuff goes around the arm, and there should be some way to tighten the sling to the arm, either a compression clamp (shown in the pic above) or so other adjustment.

knzn · Jan 13, 2004

P95Carry:
Thanks for going to the trouble of taking and posting those photo's. It does show me where the cuff may go as I was trying to make it work somewhere below my elbow instead of above it like you show. And I can't imagine it being anything other than "traditional" as it probably has not been used in a match for well over thirty years, maybe forty.

Steve Smith:
Wow, I had no idea that there would be so many sling configurations.

Thanks again to you both. I will see if I can get some photo's taken tomorrow.

knzn · Jan 14, 2004

Yesterday I asked if anyone could help me rig a shooting sling that used to belong to my Grandfather. At the time I did not realize how many different types of slings were out there, so this time I am including a photo. I have no idea in how these four pieces rig together, and realize that it may be an exercise in futility for someone to try and talk me through it, so I am in hopes that someone can direct me to a rifle already rigged with a sling such as this one. Thanks to all in advance.
Bill

Steve Smith · Jan 14, 2004

I have merged both threads into one.

The single pic you posted is lacking a great deal of detail, so it is very difficult to see what each individual piece really is.

What I think you have is two or perhaps 2 1/2 slings. The bottom one is one entire sling I believe. I see a cuff and then the leather sling part. You would put the tag end through a sling swivel and back to the frogs.

The three other pieces appear to be A 1907 sling (without the requisite keepers) and an extra short half of a 1907. You'd need two keepers to make a sling like this work.

knzn · Jan 14, 2004

Sorry for the lousy photo. Very cheap digital camera. Funny how I would never scrimp on a gun toy, but will on other stuff. Anyway thanks for your input. Going to go out and see if I can make it work!
Bill

Swampy · Jan 15, 2004

knzn,

I agree with Steve Smith.

YOu have:

1) Complete cuffed sling in one unit

1) Complete 1907 type leather sling (I believe I can see the two needed leather keepers on the loop in the photo.

and

1) Extra short end of a 1907 sling

The cuffed sling is what would most likely be used on the Win 52 for smallbore comps. The 1907 sling is a USGI design originally designed by the US Army to be used on the '03 Springfield, then later the M1 Garand. It is still the most commonly used sling today by M1-M14-AR shooters in NRA and CMP Service Rifle competitions.

Best regards,
Swampy

Garands forever

Steve Smith · Jan 15, 2004

Swampy, you're right, there are two keepers there, in the "loop" incorrectly formed on the long part of the 1907 sling.

You have one complete 1907, an extra short section, and a match rifle sling appropriate for smallbore, air, or Highpower.

Jon Coppenbarger · Jan 15, 2004

Let me have a shot at it.

You have a cuff attachment that goes on a 1907 type of sling as was a very common set up.

then you have two 1907 type slings with both sections of each.

The short ends are just extra's in this arrangement and the two top ends like the one that is attached to the cuff and the extra one on top are the main parts of the way they set the slings up in those days.

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