FL License to Carry for Military & Vets Under 21 is now Law

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http://www.floridacarry.org/legislation/25-2012-session/41-2012
HB463 & SB998 - Shall Issue Carry Licenses for Military & Vets:

Those who defend our country overseas should be able to defend themselves and their families at home. There have been too many incidences of violence against our troops who have just returned from overseas deployments and found themselves defenseless at home. Florida Carry authored legislation that will insure that our current troops and honorably discharged veterans can obtain a license to carry regardless of age or duty station. The bill will also require that fingerprint cards be accepted from military police and provost so that service members stationed overseas can complete their applications.

There are over 8,000 adult service members under the age of 21 living in the State of Florida. Countless more resident veterans and annual military visitors who will have their right the bear arms advanced by these bills.

This is a good first step toward full recognition of the right to bear arms by all law-abiding adults.

Florida Carry Authored and Strongly Supports These Bills
PASSED HOUSE & SENATE UNANIMOUSLY!
Victory! - Signed in to Law 4/13/2012
 
Think of it as a privilege earned by those who've volunteered to serve in the military! ;) Besides, all active duty military are required to have some form of formal weapon traning (hand gun and rifle).

The ability to exercise a right protected by a Constitution has been degraded into a privilege that must be earned and paid for.

In addition, the Boy Scout Marksmanship Merit Badge provides more weapons training than most service members receive in the course of a normal military career.

Sorry, I must say, it's just politics, a cookie tossed to those who will gleefully accept it in exchange for a vote, and I am a 27 year military member, so far.

It is a step in the right direction, albeit a tiny one, to restoring the 2nd Amendment, however.
 
I'm with Navy on this one. Just a crumb lofted to the starving masses. If a young person is old enough to vote, drive, die in war, be entrusted with millions of dollars worth of equipment in the service, then they should be able to get a carry permit and buy a handgun. That 21 years old rule is pretty crappy to me. Personally, if they aren't old enough to have the ability to control themselves then they shouldn't be considered old enough to vote, drive, serve in the military, or anything else that 21 can do that 18 can't. That maturity difference in those 3 years is negligible at best. Hell I know MANY 21 year olds with less than half the maturity of a lot of 18-19 year olds. That goes for several 40 year olds I know as well :scrutiny:

Don't get me wrong here, I think it's great that Florida is doing this, but I do feel it is completely unfair. There are plenty of young people out there with more than enough maturity to carry responsibly. Maybe, just maybe, it will lead the way to dropping this idiotic "21" rule for all. As Navy stated, there are MANY parts of the service where there is little to no firearms training. Hell that goes for a LOT of LEO's as well and they carry for a damn living!
 
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Very sad that it is treated as a privilege. I am ashamed that it has been reduced to that. ANother issue I have with Florida is that they do not allow students to carry on college campuses.
 
I've trained many LEO's in both hand to hand as well as CQB with weapons and I am appalled to see just how poorly most (around 95%) were trained. These people are the ones our civilian populations are entrusted to for protection. Hell most of them couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from the INSIDE before I got hold of them. Many videos and reports I have seen shows exactly what I am talking about. 15 rounds fired at close range with NO hits whatsoever? To say that these people should have the right to carry a firearm simply because of the job they had is flat out ridiculous to put it mildly. Most of them have no business even touching a damn handgun let alone be entrusted to carry one on their person.
 
"If soldiers can carry in FL, why can't anyone else who is 18-21?"


i couldnt agree more, its sad people who serve us are given rights that excede our own, making us the the tax payer(their employer) second class citizens. i respect the military but dont understand the double standards.
ill never understand why the modern day military is held on such a pedistal, its not like they were drafted.....they chose to serve the government as a career.
 
I can not wait for a non-military member who is under 21 but older than 18 apply and be reject then sue.
 
And of course there is the rider the dems attached to this bill that makes shooting at a private range on your own property felony negligence if someone complains.
 
THe NRA added that provision. Not the Democrats. It does not create any felony. It creates a misdemeanor. And it does not make shooting on a private range illegal. Only shooting in a reckless or criminally negligent manner.

The amendment was poorly worded and added without our support but it does not creat any real legal problems.
 
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StogieC, ANY poorly written rider that can be misconstrued in ANY way will create legal problems. They have a tendency to do this on purpose to create legal loopholes and are very adept at it.
 
While I'm happy that more people can legally carry, this does mean that Washington will probably drop Florida reciprocity. Under 21 Texas CHLs for the military are the only reason Washington won't recognize any Texas CHLs.
 
Yes. There is a push on in Washington State to get them to recognize more licenses. This will add fuel to drive that push because if WA drops FL, FL will drop WA.

We consulted with pro-gun groups in WA before we pushed this bill and will continue to work cooperatively to help them in their fight for expanded reciprocity.
 
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