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Went out to shoot the Pietta 1860 again today. After fussing with caps, nipples, misfires, etc. I've got it figured out and the missing element was the Remington caps. I've used CCI's with poor results and the RWS work fine on the Dragoon, but the 1860 is VERY happy ingesting Remington #10's on the ampco nipples. It took me a while, but I found a local supplier for the Remington caps and bought them all.

At the range, there were a couple LEO's and a Tac Trainer shooting with centerfire autoloaders. I challenged them to a friendly competition...best 5 out of 6 group at 21 yards. Got second place, beating one LEO and the Tac Trainer. Afterwards, one of the guys said that he needs to start showing 'those black powder guns' more respect. :D

The week before, I took first with the dragoon at 14 yards.

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I don't want to burst your bubble but I found out when taking my training and qualifying that the majority of LEOs can't shoot worth a hoot.

To be a good shot, you have to have really good concentration on the target - "tunnel vision" is a good attribute to shooting well. The opposite is true for being a good LEO. Good peripheral vision and being aware of ALL of your surroundings will keep you alive longer. This usually results in poor target concentration.

Your shooting is exemplary by the way.
 
I have to disagree with Patocazador. The difference between the good shooters and everybody else is concentration on the front sight.

If you are concetrating on the target you don't know where your shot is going. Trust me.
 
Hey 72Coupe, I think that the general thought amongst most shooters is that 'those black powder guns' refers to the thought that they are older and therefore not as reliable and not as accurate as a gun that just came out.

Of course it's bollocks...it's even worse when you tell them you're using round balls... :scrutiny:
 
I'm impressed with how well centered your hits are. Damned good job. I need to warm up my dragoon a bit more.
 
Good story and nice shooting.

Folks who don't use black powder guns are always surprised at how accurate they can be. It's even better when you show them the round ball ammo and the rear sight on a Colt C&B revolver. :D

Jeff
 
Why would anyone assume a percussion revolver won't shoot? I have fired at least a couple and generally they shoot about as well as single action cartridge guns. Of course they can't compete with something like a K-38 or a Colt OMM with fine trigger pulls and good sights. But I have fired an original 1851 Navy Colt in a Ransom rest and it did about as well as the Model 10 I fired as a control.

Jim
 
Folks scoff because folks assume "obsolete" = "ineffective". :eek: Out of the box, my inexpensive ".44 Navy" brass framed revolvers from Pietta shot excellent groups at 25 feet..., and folks around me with pistols having match barrels (the barrels cost more than each of the cap-n-ball revolvers) weren't doing that much better at the same distance. :D Folks don't realize that the "improvements" in most firearms in the 20th century were in the areas of reloading speed, reliability in bad weather, and accuracy at really long range...., but at the ranges that the BP arms were intended to be used..., they work very well indeed.

Folks also assume that a very high quality, modern firearm = quality in shooting skills, when that couldn't be further from the truth. :banghead: I have seen folks with "race guns" costing $2500 get their lunch eaten by a bloke with a 1911A1 copy and a few modifications, which he then went out and put about 1000 rounds through at the range, before going to a match.

As a wise man once said, The magic is in the wizard, not the wand. :D

LD
 
It never ceases to amaze me that people think that "old" guns and reproductions are toys and not to be taken seriously. My two favorite rifles are Uberti Highwalls ( one in .45/70 , the other in .38/55) will shoot one holers at 100 and just over 1" at 200 if I do my part. Those that appreciate well executed design marvel at the beauty and simplicity of Browning's first firearm. Let them shoot a cap and ball revolver and they are shocked when they find out that these are accurate and enjoyable firearms tto shoot. A young lady who was not more than 5' 2" and weighed about 100 lbs was completely taken when she fired 6 60 gr. loads through my WALKER. Her husband's .22rf Rugar just wasn't "any fun" any more. Once they try one they will have a great deal of respect for them.
 
One of my favorite games a couple of years ago when we were in Arizona was to put a tangerine on a stump at about 15 yards after I'd loaded my "Fake" Navy but before I capped it. Then while I was capping my old re-pro my buddies would have at it with their plastic guns, while they were changing magazines I could usually pop the tangerine with the first shot and have five left to chase it across the ground. Granted this is my "test" gun and it has been played with extensively but it all boils down to familiarity with the weapon, not what the weapon is.
 
Just for fun, here's my second place group using the Pietta 1860.

32 rounds from 45 feet. Still a bit high and to the left. The bottom two shots were nitrated cartridges that I was trying out and wanted to keep them clear of my primary group.

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Revolvers do seem to take a little more to get accustomed to than single muzzle loaders, but, it is indeed fun showing the modern boys that the old guns still can do the job.

I once shot on a team with LEO's, and showed up with a cap and ball revolver. Now for time I couldn't hold a candle against their double actions, but in the untimed, I could clean their clocks.
 
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