Why don't they make new Broomhandle Mausers?

Purely cost. Like a lot of designs at the time and from the area, there's a lot of fine work that can't easily be done by CNC now or low-paid (then: interned) labor ever. Even if someone felt like doing it, it's got a short barrel for its size.

Of course now that you guys mention it, if I could have found the magazines easily enough, and an appropriate material that doesn't need further heat treating--and more than ten minutes spare time at a stretch--I would be seriously tempted to find some blueprints and fire up the mill in the garage.

High cost, and an obsolete design.

I can't remember the book, but according to the book, which referenced period military tests, the broom handle was not particularly reliable. Jammed more than other designs.

I would dispute the "cost" rationale everyone keeps bringing up. As with everything else, it's demand. Americans still have lots of disposable income, last time I checked. Cost doesn't keep companies from reproducing Indian motorcycles or brand new 1957 Chevrolets (yes, you can get them...about 100 grand.) No, they're not just like the old ones, they're improved

This Spencer rifle being made/distributed/whatever by Cimarron is an obsolete gun by most people's standards, and they're awfully expensive for the function they perform, but apparently there are people out there buying them.

http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/repeating-rifles-1/spencer-1.html

Same is probably true for old British big game rifles, I would imagine. If enough people want them, cost will cease to be an issue, to one degree or another.

I wonder how many times Smith & Wesson has been seduced by the "Why don't they make...." question, only to find out, once again, the reason they didn't make .... anymore, was because people didn't buy them in the first place.

Too expensive, too much hand fitting and fine machining for mass production. Could you do it? Sure. Would it be profitable? No

Maybe talk to the guys who make the STG 44 mock up to make a broom handle in 22LR.

Now that would be a "shut up and take my money" gun.

Bottom line- no sustainable profit.
Costs too high, market too small.
Denis

You know that if Ford declared they would build Model Ts again, some folks would swear on a stack of service manuals that they honest-to-goodness WOULD drive one to work every day.

But Ford knows they'd sell about three and then have to deal with the complaints and service issues from fielding a century old design that doesn't meet any of the expectations a modern user has come to rely on.

Because unless its a select fire, it would be very impractical contraption and perhaps expensive as well, comparatively.

Sam,
I'd actually sell GUNS to buy a new Model T.
But, I'd be among a small crowd of buyers.
Denis

This thread is seven years old.

Dambit, fell for it again!
Denis

LOL!

Look at it this way. Not much has changed in 7 years but the old ones got a little older and harder to find.

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So what? You see any other hot topics that are lacking attention here?

I have a new Broomhandle. Still gooped with cosmolene. Only fired once, the proof round. It has the matching holster and it grades out at 99+

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Well then sir, you need to take some pics and start a new thread, cus I would love to see a 99+ broomhandle!

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So what? You see any other hot topics that are lacking attention here?

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Are you coppin' 'tude?

I was just making an observation.


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Why don't "they" make new Model A Fords?

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Why don't "they" make new Model A Fords?

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You guys might be interested to know that Speedway Motors in Lincoln, NE was offering a complete 32 Ford Hot Rod a couple of years ago. I think you had to put the motor in yourself, though. Why? Because then it could technically sold as a "kit" and not be subject to auto industry regulations.

The regulation/liability thing works for guns, too. I don't know much about broomhandles. Are there any inherent safety related problems? That could make manufacturers stay away too.

Are you coppin' 'tude?

I was just making an observation.

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Naw. I don't go looking for old threads, but if it comes back to the surface, frankly, I don't look to see when it got started. It was an interesting topic, and while the specific topic of "Broomhandle Mauser" doesn't come up every day, the question "Why don't they make ------anymore" seems to every so often, so in my humble opinion, the subject is a valid one. The reasons are all pretty much the same anyway.

IMHO, this resurrected old Mauser thread is more worthy of comment than all tired, thoughtless posts like...

9mm vs 45 which is better?
What gun is the best?
What should I buy??
Glocks suck!
Glocks rule!
Please learn me...
Please tell me what to buy, sell, or trade.
45 vs 9mm which is better?

Why Not Make New Broomhadle Mauser ?

Ever shot one (sans stock) ? Talk about a new form (or old form) of "The Twist" . The modern functional design requirements is another. It would also have to be proven to the potential investor that it would sell . The cost/price factor is the uppermost one . All these are the major reasons they are not currently made and easily available . I haven't seen any recent ads selling newly manufactured Chinese (or other) Broomhandles . Would I like to have one if not cost prohibitive ? Well, yeah !

I'd buy that 1932 Ford kit except that my name isn't Clyde and I don't know anyone named Bonnie.

Jim

Why don't they make them anymore? The bolt stop and the thin section of the barrel extension supporting it are a weak point in the design. The bolt is slowed in recoil more by pressure of the hammer spring. You can have a weak hammer spring that allows the bolt to batter the bolt stop and the hammer spring will still have the strength to fire cartridges. I inspect the bolt stop and barrel extension slot for the bolt stop for changes everytime I clean mine. I replaced the hammer and the bolt return springs in mine with new springs from Wolff Springs and only shoot it with mild reloads. I like mine, it's fun, but its obsolete. I never tire of posting my best black powder cartridge match target (ten shots, 25 yards, standing off-hand).




2002 I passed on one of the new manufactured Chinese broomhandles; it was 9mm, had detachable magazine, new flat side frame. I have an original Mauser, shoulder stock, and ATF FTB letter OKing the combo as legal as a collectible: original Mauser and accurate repro of an original stock as a Title I Gun Control Act pistol. An original Mauser pistol with a stock not replicating the original stock (eg, a new tactical stock) would be a Title II National Firearms Act short barrel rifle. Any new frame Mauser with any shoulder stock is a Title II National Firearms Act short barrel rifle. Tis a pity too, the Chinese could have made the new frame without the shoulder stock slot for the export market. I had to pass on the Chinese gun.

Probably one of the most iconic designs ever. Instantly recognizable. No mistaking it for anything else.

A friends father brought one back from WWII, and the friend and I shot it quite a bit. Nice gun to shoot, 9mm version.

When you look at it closely, you realize every part was machined. No stampings, cast pieces, etc. that I ever saw.

It could probably be made today with modern methods cheaper than it was then. But, who's the market? Item's values tend to rise and fall with a core market. Like certain models of cars, the values fall as the people who grew up with them grow old. Younger people are looking for cars from their own generation.

May be a similar thing with this gun. Younger shooters may not have the same interest as people from a previous generation.

Maybe if you made it out of black plastic........