Sig P220 in 10mm

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Will if they make one either on the 220 frame or the 227 i am in. I Like the grip on the new 227 because it is big and i have big hands so that would be what i prefer. I haven't been able to put the two models side by side but the whole frame on the 227 seems larger than the 220. It might be the differences of the rail. All the railed guns seem larger than the non railed guns in the same model.

JHB : I will be keeping my 20 and 29 also. But the 20 will probably stay in the safe most of the time.
 
Just for the sake of accuracy, the magazines provided with the Grayguns converted 220s were manufactured for them by Metalform. What they gave back was information for production of successful 220 magazines.
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Thanks for the follow-up. I was going from memory from back when I'd study the GG conversion and was trying to decide whether or not to pursue it with my 220.
 
Okay, so would an existing 220 be able to handle 10mm with a conversion (slide, barrel, mags, etc.) kit? That's definitely interesting.
 
If it were possible, you'd likely also need to change out the locking block, ejector and takedown lever.

For it to be reliable, for very long, it would also likely need to be a stainless steel frame and not the alloy one
 
oldironsights said:
herrwalther, perhaps that is so with double stack magazines, but the 220 is single stack.
My 1977 9mm P220 holds 9 rounds in magazine while my later P220 pistols chambered in 45auto hold 8 rounds in magazine.
One would speculate the new 10mm 220 would possibly hold 9 or ten rounds.
Would depend on how far the magazine baseplate protrudes.
Oops! My nine mag base is flush, while my 45 bases are extended.
If the 10mm mags are extended, they may very well hold ten rounds.
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Original flush fit P220 .45 mags are 7rd, although a replacement follower allowed for 8rds.
 
Lucky Derby said:
Original flush fit P220 .45 mags are 7rd, although a replacement follower allowed for 8rds.
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Fair warning, squeezing 8 rounds of .45ACP into a tube designed for 7 rounds isn't always the best course of action if reliability is a concern.

SIG ran into this problem, following the example of the Wilson 47D, and eventually corrected their problem by going to longer magazine bodies...as did Wilson with their ETM
 
After noodling it for a week now I think I would pass. My S&W 1076 is an awesome full size 10mm, so the 220 would only be redundant.

As mentioned, I would love to see them do it in their 320 series. Glock needs some competition in the poly 10mm market.
 
After noodling it for a week now I think I would pass. My S&W 1076 is an awesome full size 10mm, so the 220 would only be redundant.
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That had been my thinking too, but my 1076 and 1006 are quickly passing into collector status and the sources for mags and spare parts have about dried up. A 10mm 220 gives you *about* the same thing - all-steel, single stack, frame-mounted decocker , etc. - but it would be a current production model with factory support.

* * * Glock needs some competition in the poly 10mm market.
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A Smith M&P 10mm?
 
Have they said it would be all steel? Most 220s are alloy-framed.
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Yeah, I know that. But per Sig's authorized announcement (see the link in my post above - #22), they referenced the "stainless steel" models, which were also the only ones Bruce @ Gray Guns used for his 10mm conversion, as far as I know.
 
1KPerDay said:
Have they said it would be all steel? Most 220s are alloy-framed.
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Yes the official announcement, through Sigforum, was that all four models initially offered will be all steel....as were all the Grayguns' custom conversions; Bruce just never felt comfortable trying to convert an alloy frame

They are making the conversion less complicated, fewer variables, by using an existing all steel frame that will fit the cartridge length of the 10mm

That is also what gives lie to the rumor that this 10mm will be based on the 227
 
Thanks. I obviously didn't read the Sigforum thread. Basing it on the 227 would be a good choice, IMO... assuming they can build reliable mags. Probably hold 12 or so in flush fits?
 
In case I was misunderstood, it isn't being built on the 227 frame as they don't have any current plans to produce that sized frame in stainless steel
 
I never thought I'd see the day. SigForum had a '10mm Sig' wish-thread that was MILES long back when I used to frequent that site. They must be ecstatic over there.
 
I will probably pick one up. I like my SS 229 Sport as a shooter. A nice 220 10mm makes a lot of sense to me. Now what model to pick as my birthday is coming...
 
Well if the SIG 10mm's shoot like my P229 .40 cal, I would be interested. I would love to have another 10mm that would match my Dan Wesson Razorback accuracy.

P229:

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DW RZ10:

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I've already got a few 220s so I might as well add to the set. But I'm gonna insist on cdlling it the .40 S&W Long. Just to confuse people. I used to call the .40 10mm Kurz.
 
Better tie a brick to the muzzle of that thang or it's gonna somersault right outta yo hand. :D

M
 
Sig's press release:
NEWINGTON, N.H. (January 12, 2015) — SIG SAUER, Inc., introduces the classic P220® single-stack pistol chambered in the powerful 10mm Auto cartridge.

The SIG P220 has now been paired with 10mm ammunition to deliver increased energy, longer-range capability in a proven hunting round.

“A 10mm version of the legendary P220 is at the top of the list of ‘most requested products’ from fans of our products,” said Jeff Creamer, Executive Director and General Merchandise Manager for SIG SAUER, Inc. “We heard the demand, and created a P220 that will make full use of the cartridge’s potential.”

Four different models of 10mm P220 will be offered, each featuring a 5˝ barrel to maximize the internal ballistics of the 10mm round. From duty carry to self-defense to wild game hunting, the P220 10mm delivers the ballistic performance fans of the cartridge need in a pistol.

The Match Elite Reverse Two-Tone P220 features the Elite Beavertail, a stainless finish with front cocking serrations. Black G-10 Piranha grips and adjustable match sights round out the package. This is the DA/SA model of the 10mm series.

The Stainless Elite P220 and Stainless Elite Nitron® P220 are single-action only P220 pistols, and also feature the Elite Beavertail. SIGLITE® night sights and front cocking serrations come standard. The Stainless Elite is done up with a natural stainless finish and Rosewood grips, while the Stainless Elite Nitron features a durable Nitron finish and black G-10 Piranha grips.

The Hunt Ready P220 is a single-action only pistol, also features the Elite Beavertail and front cocking serrations. The Hunt Ready P220 comes ready for the field with the SIG SAUER Romeo1 mini red-dot sight installed, black G-10 Piranha grips and a Kryptek® Highlander camo pattern finish.

All 10mm P220 pistols feature the rugged design and premier quality that elite military units, top law enforcement agencies, and demanding shooters worldwide have come to expect from SIG SAUER.
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agtman said:
Dude, stifle yourself. :scrutiny: Was that even relevant? :rolleyes:
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Well, I thought it was relevant. Having owned a P220 in 45 ACP, I thought it had too much muzzle flip and I can't imagine one in 10mm. It had better have a steel frame strong enough to handle the full-house 10mm loads and a longer barrel while we are at it...

It seems 10mm is making a bit of a comeback here with more platform options, but ammo manufacturers need to step up their offerings or we will just be stuck with weak (40 SW) loads to shoot in big, bulky guns.

I'm looking forward to the Glock 40 longslide myself.

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