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I've owned and or shot most of the guns mentioned in this thread and agree with most of what's been shared and compared. The Walther will always be a sentimental favorite. I admire and respect it's originality and "first of it's kind" design. I don't think anyone can deny the beautiful sleek...
I was given a XDM 5.25 Elite in .45acp. It wasn't a gun I'd have bought for myself... until I shot it a few times. I was very impressed and pleased. So impressed I did find and purchase the 9mm caliber of the same gun. Both have become favorite range guns and more importantly become my two...
I've only fondled the Walther, M&P and Ruger. Only the Walther turned me off. I found a reasonably priced FN about 15 years ago. It struck me as a very high quality pistol, easy to shoot well, reliable and unusually clean shooting. I enjoyed it very much. I'll stick with the original for now.
I've got a regular Hellcat OSP with a Sig Romeo Zero sight installed. The advantage of having a red dot sight co-witness with the iron sights helps in acquiring the dot when training. The gun has proved very reliable. It is a handful when shooting, as any very small 9mm would be, but the grip...
The .32acp caliber Seecamp was not produced until 1984 or 1985. Prior to then the only available Seecamp was a .25acp. It's a shame the Seecamp forum was allowed to simply vanish. It was a huge source of information and history... much of it communicated by Larry Seecamp himself.
I have a...
If you think the PMR is fun, take a look at the CMR carbine. I own both firearms and must admit the carbine goes to the range more often. It is just a blast. Fun meter pegged at 10. Enjoy your new pistol.
Nothing to add to the above comments.
I did the same side by side comparisom a while back. I chose the Hellcat for several reasons. First reason was that Sig's optic plate removal took the rear sight away whereas the Hellcat retained the rear sight allowing use of both iron and red dot together. Very practical redundancy.
Next was...
I suggest you read this older thread from a HK forum about testing a HK P2000 in daily wear and tear and abuse. Well written, funny and informative. It's a long but worthwhile read IMHO. It will quite fully demonstrate the quality of HK pistols...
Take a look at this gun value site. Shows actual sales values. Keep in mind the newest version of this pistol sells in gun shops for around $750.
https://truegunvalue.com/pistol/beretta-84f/price-historical-value
I bought one last summer as a cheap but fun plinker. Shoots well enough, good for what I expected. I don't like the mags. A bit harder to load than other modern .22 mags. I also do not appreciate that it required a tool to dismantle and clean. Compare to the Taurus TX line up. IMHO the Taurus...
Beretta made the 21A in both calibers, .22lr and .25acp. Both calibers are DA/SA. They are identical except for the centerfire Vs rimfire feature. If I were going to carry a 21A it would be the centerfire for better reliability. I own both, like both but I carry another Beretta, a Pico...
For that price I'd buy one. If considering it for carry you may want to think about a .25acp or .32acp model IMHO. Yes, the sights are a weak feature but it's a point and shoot gun, so why worry?
Here are a couple of my mouse guns I actually have carried over the years. The most carried are the Seecamp and much newer Pico. Before I owned the Pico a beautiful Walther TPH filled in while my Seecamp was in for a check-up.
A potential carry Beretta 21A
Just how small is a Seecamp...
I voted HK because they've never failed me and I shoot them well, but I've learned to love my Caniks almost as much. I call them my "Turkish HKs".
However, I love all my children.
A number of years ago I found a FN for sale at a gun show for $700. The seller also had about 1000 rounds of ammo priced at $14 per box. I enjoyed the gun. Impressed with it's quality and reliability. I've always thought a 5.7 upper on a AR would be cool as ice. Never bought one but ponder...
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