¿Pump-action raygun pistol?

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I have never seen anything like it.

But the tremendous drop of the stock, and strange butt attachment might suggest some sort of shooting gallery gun that was attached to a counter swivel that would allow aiming up, down, or limited motion sideways, but not removing it to wave wildly around.

That's all I got!!

Where did you find the photos??

rc
 
Interesting theory on the weird "stock," RC. That's way better than any theories I managed to half-form.

A buddy sent me the photos. It seems they are part of a preview for an auction he's planning to attend sometime soon, and he wanted me to tell him what it was. In the past I've been able to answer his questions, either right off or after a bit of Googling, but I came up blank on this one.
 
I remember seeing a similar stock , made for a gentleman who had a problem with his right arm being shorter than his left ., the stock fitted under his arm pit and as such he was to reach the trigger. His left arm was able to support the rifle while he fired. The rifle was a .22 auto. I don't remember the brand.
 
I have seen several such guns weirdly shaped gun stocks made for paraplegics, or one side blind people.

But, that one right there doesn't appear to have a normal butt that could be held against the shoulder, or under the armpit, no matter what was wrong with you.

(Unless you had a neck like a giraffe?)

(Or, Unless you had a steel exoskeleton it somehow attached to??)

I still think it's a counter gun from a shooting gallery or game console of some sort??

rc
 
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I believe the top , is new to the gun. the receiver and stock appears to me ( Just me ) as old world work. I don't think it is a galley gun for the very reasons RC posted, how in the world would they shoot it. What caliber is it, it has to be a single shot because the stock fits into what would be the magazine well. Another one of those very interesting guns that you wish couyld talk.
 
I agree the 'Ray gun' part was probably added in the 1950's or later.

My thought on the 'counter gun' in a shooting gallery or something?

The round thing clipped into a horizontally rotating socket mounted on the counter.
The release on the side of the stock was so they could dismount it and safely store it after the game shut down.

I beleave the only way you could shoot it was leaning over the counter with your elbows resting on the counter top.

The extreme drop in the stock would be perfect for that.

Side to side movement was in the rotating bracket mounted on the counter or console top.

Vertical movement was by the large disk rotating up and down in the counter socket mount.

The whole thing together made free movement down range possible.
Without any possibility of the gun being turned around and pointed the wrong way.

That's the only thing that makes a lick of sense to me??

But I'm just guessing.

rc
 
Wheelchair mount? Just sayin'... That is one odd looking pistol, and honestly, rcmodel has the explanation that sounds the best. Only guns I ever saw at a carnival were air guns.
 
I can remember carnival shooting gallery's that used Winchester 06 & 62 .22 pumps.

I don't think they were even chained down?

And the concessioner stood inside the counter in front of the shooters and collected your money, loaded the guns, and gave you the teddy bears you won.

Never heard of anyone getting shot.

We must have been more gun savy and safer back in the 50's!

A carny wouldn't last 5 minutes standing in front of today's Ninja video game warriors with loaded .22 rifles I betcha!!

And it wouldn't take 5 minutes before somebody stole the rifles today!!

My thought on the OP gun was more like an unattended shooting game console in an arcade or tavern type setting back in the day.

rc
 
I must have looked at those pictures a dozen times and just now noticed in the bottom picture, there is a round " clip" or lanyard at the very bottom of the stock. Way too small for a sling and too flimsy for a lanyard. Yes, I spent many a quarter at those shooting gallery's, showing off to which every young lady was watching what a dead eye shot I was.
 
Not this, but something like this you could lean over and rest your elbows on.

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It would be very good to know if it has any manufactures markings on it??


But for all I know, it could be a sub-caliber machine gunners training device out of the back seat of a WWII Japanese Betty bomber??

It is kinda WWII Japanese looking! :D

rc
 
RC, your comments of last night got me thinking toward indoor, unmanned arcades. (Hadn't occurred to me before, just the carnival gallery possibility.) Ended up clicking through every one of these, but without finding a match: http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/#guns

The style suggests something earlier than most of those.
 
It could be a one-of prototype for a game of some kind too?

That's why it would be most useful to find out if there are any manufactures markings on it.

Most any production item like that would be marked somehow.

A prototype wouldn't necessarily be marked at all.

At any rate, I sure would like to know.
Not very often I get completely stumped on a gun question.

But I am on this one!!

rc
 
I'm also wondering if perhaps it is chambered for one of Mr. Flobert's cartridges. However there is one thing for sure, I don't have the foggiest ideal of origins or parentage.
 
Off the all - does anyone remember any oddball movies from the 50s or 60s that might have sported such a weird looking pistol? Perhaps it is a movie prop?
 
A pump action pistol and the "stock" is actually the magazine. On the left side is the spring winding lever and at the rear bottom of the stock is a "door" that opens to allow loading the ammunition. The ray-gun part is after-market I'll bet.
 
...the "stock" is actually the magazine. On the left side is the spring winding lever and at the rear bottom of the stock is a "door" that opens to allow loading the ammunition.
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That was my initial thought.

Also, in the middle photo, there are faint shadows at the action's rear suggesting a spring that's open to the elements top-and-bottom. I'm guessing it's a BB gun of some sort.

Could be that the stock serves both as a magazine and a table-lock?
 
The auction house has put out more information: They say it is a one-off prototype built by High Standard, a pump-action .45-caliber pistol. And the "stock" is indeed a high-capacity magazine.
 
MmmmmKaaaa!

Must have been a dull few days at the H-S factory!!!

Or, Maybe after the Xmas office party??

Some engineer said, 'Here, hold my beer and watch this!
We'll teach them Germans a thing or two about snail drum magazines!!' :D

rc
 
Good Golly Miss Molly, I would never have through that ,that thing was the product of any factory! I wonder what the time frame was.
 
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