10 mm commander ?

[judgedelta]

I don't see much about commander length 10 mm 1911's. It doesn't appear that you would lose much velocity (or gain much muzzle flash) with a 4.25" barrel, since a Glock 20 barrel is only 4.6. The weight should help offset the recoil more than a plastic frame. Any experience to share?

I know most will say why not just go with a .45, but then again, why not a 10?

 

[joneb]

My geuss is not enough slide mass.

 

[WestKentucky]

I would be nervous about a commander. My full size 1911 has a strong enough recoil spring that I would not want to mess with one stiffer in a shorter barrel. Glock operate differently too, so it will be a different feel.

 

[tipoc]

Dan Wesson has made them.

tipoc

 

[don12]

Smith & Wesson 1066,1076 and 1086 are commander 4 1/4.

 

[Olympus]

Rock Island makes a couple different commander size 10mms. They function just fine. The Dan Wesson 10mm commanders are discontinued and fetch top dollar. But they function great too. Fusion builds a lot of custom 10mm commanders and they are great too. If you see one, but it. No reason to worry.

 

[Iggy]

Pair of 10s. Govt Model and CCO.

Been packin' and shootin' them for more than a decade.
So far so good.

 

[harrygunner]

Chrono data I recorded from my Commander length 10mm 1911:

10mm Underwood ammo -

180gr XTP : 1271, 1265, 1269, 1299, 1253 : avg 1271 ft/s 645 ft-lb
200gr XTP : 1181, 1187, 1199, 1183, 1167 : avg 1183 ft/s 620 ft-lb
220gr HC : 1152, 1153, 1165, 1156, 1161 : avg 1157 ft/s 653 ft-lb

 

[2zulu1]

Works fine for me, night time too.

 

[bluzman]

I don't own a 10mm RIA but I do own a .40 S&W (~10mm) RIA MS 1911 (Commander size). It's a fine pistol.

 

[agtman]

As Don12 mentioned, ....

10mm "Commanders" - i.e., 4.25" barrel and slide - were made by S&W as well. Those models were the 1076, 1066, and 1086.

 

[DaisyCutter]

I know most will say why not just go with a .45, but then again, why not a 10?

I had this thought tonight. Was at LGS tonight and he had a used unfired Glock 20 with Tupperware case and 2 mags for $400.

I almost made an impulse buy.

I currently carry a Glock 41 uniformed and Glock 30S off duty. Both are 45 ACP. I use the 30S for most hikes and road trips, etc. It's my daily carry. I also handload 45 ACP 230 grain ball like the Gubmint hands out food stamps. You could say I'm deep into 45 ACP.

So I called my friendly Tackleberry-esque co-worker and asked about the 10mm. Be raved about it for hiking, especially with Gucci hunting ammo from Doubletap or Underwood. I asked whether 10mm offers performance sufficiently better than 45 ACP to justify another caliber. He explained the ballistic differences, and I was astounded. He said the 10mm is the best one-caliber option for anything I could encounter in the AZ back country, from black bear to cartel mule. It's accurate, flat shooting, and hits with authority.

I still himmed and hawed, since a new caliber would mean new reloading dies, potentially even using small pistol primers, etc. He explained that for a trail gun, you don't shoot enough volume to justify reloading.

So now I'm sold. Tomorrow morning I become a 10mm owner. It'll be a dedicated desert trail gun.

For my scenario, I've determined 10mm is entirely justifiable over 45 ACP for a dedicated back country carry piece.

 

[d'zaster]

10mm uses large primers.

 

[Tom Fury]

Do you think maybe SIG will get to it

With their 220/10mm in the next year or so? I'm waiting for that; seen the Hickock .45 video?
Cheers, J

 

[barnbwt]

"He explained that for a trail gun, you don't shoot enough volume to justify reloading."
I suppose, if you want to be able to hit anything when the time comes

 

[cheygriz]

I have two 10MM weapons. A Glock 20 and an EAA full size Witness.

Unless someone completely re-designs the 1911 for the high pressure and high energy of the 10MM, I would pass on it.

I love my 1911s, but they were designed for low recoil, low power rounds.

I prefer the 155 grain XTP or Gold Dot at 1400 FPS, or the 165 Gold Dot at 1350.