stiletto raggio
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Yeah, I know this is deceiving, but this is a concept, not an available product. It just sort of popped into my head last night.
I will give credit where credit is due. The COP Derringer always seemed like a unique concept, but it's weight (25 ounces or so), width (1") and notoriously horrible trigger pull (like 16 pounds) seemed to undercut the utility of the design.
First, I would use polymer for most of the grip, frame and trigger guard. The plate against the rear of the chambers (firing pin face plate?) would be steel, of course, but molded into the polymer frame.
Second, I would go back to the classic two-barreled derringer configuration to reduce weight and width.
Third, I would have a large trigger guard with a double action trigger and integral safety (a la glock). This trigger would be significantly lighter than the COP (say, 5 pounds) because the barrel release slide would also partially cock the hammers.
Fourth, to make reloading easy, the barrels would pop up like a shotgun instead of rotating around like traditional derrigners. A small spring-loaded ejector would be incorporated into the design. It would be mounted to the side and manually held forward while the action is closed. When the barrel release is pulled, the barrels would pop up and eject the empty casings.
Last, a set of XS big dot sights would me dovetailed into the top barrel. Fast to acquire and snag free, they seem to be the optimum sight configuration.
I based my design criteria around getting major caliber round into a gun that is significantly smaller than a P3AT, roughly the same weight loaded, and with enough barrel length to make the most of the two shots available. The lack of a slide makes it posible to put the bore axis really low in the hand, making the gun smaller and more controllable than an auto could be while maximixing grip area.
I think the gun could be made with a width of .8", height of 3.2", and length just at 4". Recoil would not be pleasant, but the bore axis, polymer frame and relatively low operating pressure of the .45 ACP would make it bearable, certainly no worse than the baby .357s.
Is there interest in something like this? I would certainly get one as a back up.
More explanation at http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=4244901#post4244901
I know it is kind of tacky to post a link to another forum, but the explanation posted there is pretty clear.
I will give credit where credit is due. The COP Derringer always seemed like a unique concept, but it's weight (25 ounces or so), width (1") and notoriously horrible trigger pull (like 16 pounds) seemed to undercut the utility of the design.
First, I would use polymer for most of the grip, frame and trigger guard. The plate against the rear of the chambers (firing pin face plate?) would be steel, of course, but molded into the polymer frame.
Second, I would go back to the classic two-barreled derringer configuration to reduce weight and width.
Third, I would have a large trigger guard with a double action trigger and integral safety (a la glock). This trigger would be significantly lighter than the COP (say, 5 pounds) because the barrel release slide would also partially cock the hammers.
Fourth, to make reloading easy, the barrels would pop up like a shotgun instead of rotating around like traditional derrigners. A small spring-loaded ejector would be incorporated into the design. It would be mounted to the side and manually held forward while the action is closed. When the barrel release is pulled, the barrels would pop up and eject the empty casings.
Last, a set of XS big dot sights would me dovetailed into the top barrel. Fast to acquire and snag free, they seem to be the optimum sight configuration.
I based my design criteria around getting major caliber round into a gun that is significantly smaller than a P3AT, roughly the same weight loaded, and with enough barrel length to make the most of the two shots available. The lack of a slide makes it posible to put the bore axis really low in the hand, making the gun smaller and more controllable than an auto could be while maximixing grip area.
I think the gun could be made with a width of .8", height of 3.2", and length just at 4". Recoil would not be pleasant, but the bore axis, polymer frame and relatively low operating pressure of the .45 ACP would make it bearable, certainly no worse than the baby .357s.
Is there interest in something like this? I would certainly get one as a back up.
More explanation at http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=4244901#post4244901
I know it is kind of tacky to post a link to another forum, but the explanation posted there is pretty clear.
The ADC offers short height and light weight, vital considerations for ankle carry.
