100-pound Rottweiler, right now

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.40 will stop a pit. Here's how I know. A number of years ago I gave an uncle a pit puppy from a litter my female had. About a year later he was having work done in the back of his house so he had the pit on a runner in the front yard while he was at work. When he got home his dog wasn't there. His neighbor came over and told him what happened. Apparently someone called the police on a pit terrorizing the neighborhood. Cops saw his dog in the front yard, on a runner, shot it, called a garbage truck over, unhooked dog from leash and threw it in the garbage truck. Neighbor said the dog wasn't dead yet, whimpering in pain, trying to move but really couldn't. So, yes, a .40 will stop a pit.

Please tell me that (insert four letter word) went to jail for animal cruelty.
 
Out of curiosity, does anyone carry a concealable/extendable baton for dog attacks? (I already saw the shovel handle, but it isn't concealable very well)

Or... is this just a really bad idea? (I already have pepper spray for dogs, in case anyone was wondering)
 
I carried an Asp collapsible baton on duty. I never once considered using it on a dog. I used OC with success and never had to shoot a dog.
 
Come to find out the cop was his friend. But he had not lived in his house long and the cop didn't know that's where he lived. He didn't sue bc of this. The cop apologized but still, I'm not sure what I woulda done. Guess it would depend on how attached to your dog you were.
 
I used to work in people's houses. Like many houses a day. After constantly getting bit I finally started telling people I wasn't coming in unless they put their dog in a room I would not be in. One day I got bit in 3 different houses. All by "he's just a baby and would not bite anyone, would just lick you to death" dogs. I nearly lost my marbles on the last one and said a thing or 2 I probably shouldn't.
 
When my dad was a boy delivering newspapers on his bike he told me that he had a dog that would chase him and try and bite him . He said he put ammonia in a squirt gun and squirted the dog in the eyes one time and he said from then on the dog would run the other way when he saw him coming .

Something similar happened to me when I was in college. I would be on my 10-speed going to get groceries or to work and had to pass by this one house. There was a German shepherd there that was known to run out into the street, beyond the picket fence, past the sidewalk, into the street to chase joggers, bicyclists, etc. Despite being warned, the owner did nothing to restrain this dog.
One time, I was on my motorcycle, going to the store, but wearing my leather hiking boots. As the dog had charged me before on my motorcycle, I was prepared for his charge this time by leaning forward and holding my right leg back. When he got close, I swung my foot and was able to catch him under the chin, flipping him over. I coasted to a stop a couple of houses down the block and watched until he woozily got up and staggered back into his yard.
The next time I went by on my 10-speed, he charged to the opening in the fence - and stopped.
I don't know if this dog still charged other people, but he never charged into the street at me again.
 
I deal with dogs all the time. The only times I've been bit, were little weak warning bites that didn't break skin, and one time it was real, but I was already suited up in my arc flash gear, so dealing with that dog was a joke.

Pepper spray works best, it's a 4 foot shotgun as far as dogs are concerned. Shooting them is a terrible choice, hopefully one ya'll can avoid. Another child was shot and killed by cops again this week because they were trying to shoot a dog. Every year we see this a dozen times. Dogs are a PITA to hit, and that stray round always finds a kid or old lady.

I don't even carry pepper spray since I always have a handful of tools. With a little training, and a bad attitude, a 100# rott is no match for a healthy 230# man.

Rots are kinda dumb, they charge like they hate you, wiggling that stumpy tail all the time. I keep dog treats in my truck, if the treat bounces off of them, and they ignore it, I don't enter the yard. You also have to control your mental state. If you have a guilty attitude, dogs will go ape. Ever noticed that your dogs hate black people in a white neighborhood. That's why, dogs ain't racist. If you remind yourself, that your were invited to that house, that you belong there and have a legit purpose there before entering, dogs will be way more calm. They can sense that.
 
Something similar happened to me when I was in college. I would be on my 10-speed going to get groceries or to work and had to pass by this one house. There was a German shepherd there that was known to run out into the street, beyond the picket fence, past the sidewalk, into the street to chase joggers, bicyclists, etc. Despite being warned, the owner did nothing to restrain this dog.
One time, I was on my motorcycle, going to the store, but wearing my leather hiking boots. As the dog had charged me before on my motorcycle, I was prepared for his charge this time by leaning forward and holding my right leg back. When he got close, I swung my foot and was able to catch him under the chin, flipping him over. I coasted to a stop a couple of houses down the block and watched until he woozily got up and staggered back into his yard.
The next time I went by on my 10-speed, he charged to the opening in the fence - and stopped.
I don't know if this dog still charged other people, but he never charged into the street at me again.
I must have been about 12 when an ornery black and white mutt came snarling out of his front yard to latch onto my leg as I was trying to peddle my bicycle up a hill. He was on me before I even knew he was there, didn't draw blood, but tore my blue jeans and scared the crap out of me. Besides that, because I was going uphill, I couldn't go fast enough to get away from him, so he just kept it up until he got bored with tormenting me, I guess.
Well, I'm sort of vengeful. So when I got to the top of the hill, I stopped, picked up a fist sized rock, and went back down that hill at full speed. I saw the miserable mutt come out of his yard, and when he made it to the asphalt, I let fly with the rock. It hit the road right between his front legs, bounced up, and hit my would be tormenter right between his back legs. He just sat down right there, threw his head back, and started howling - like in a cartoon.
He never did bother me again. In fact, I'd bet he never bothered any bicyclists again.:D
 
Believe it or not... one of the best non-lethal defense against aggressive dogs is a simple umbrella.... A postman passed along that trick to me many years ago. With umbrella in hand in the closed position, you wait until the dog approaches and suddenly open it as the dog nears, keeping it between you and the dog as you retreat back towards safety.

That is correct.I had several times used that trick and it works like a charm. Dogs were running and squealing like crazy if they see umbrella suddenly opens up.
 
I can remember walking to work at Maxwell AFB and being harassed regularly by a big ol dog. One night I was tired of it, so when the dog ran at me, I ran at it as fast as I could. He switched directions and ran for home. One win for the home team.

When I first moved back to the state, I live in the country. One morning I opened the front door and was met by a big German Shepard growling at me on my own porch. What they heck was my first thought. I grabbed a broom and chased it away. It was more scared of me than I was of it. My closest neighbor had the same experience with the dog. He returned with a shotgun. Dog was history.
 
Not a blanket solution to every aggressive dog, but assuming it has hold of you somewhere and has a collar: Twist that collar hard and take it air away. And lift the dog up to reduce it's contact with the ground.

Just my two cents.
 
Just make sure that you not wearing shorts at that time.
I was walking my German Shepard one day and already was on my porch opening from door, suddenly I noticed that my neighbor's pit bull charging at us.
I did exactly what "WrongHanded" suggested - grab, twist and lift the bastard but with weaker hand.
Dog was wiggling and scratch my legs very badly. At that time my Shepard get hold of him and I had to rescue that poor beast. Mine 2 to and that poor dog's 18 stitches I believe was a good lesson
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My dog would bite and attack you if you came on our property. As said his first instinct is to protect us. This is the same dog that will be insulted if we're out walking and someone won't say hello to him. So vicious depends on context.

As for the best defense is not to trespass, not to appear threatening, and to not be afraid. Don't do anything sudden, and don't look aggressive.

I've had many people wonder how I can have any dog be barking and looking like they'll kill me at me one second, and be my next buddy the next. The "trick" is to love animals, respect them and let them know you're not a threat. To do this, I'll usually slowly extend a hand palm down, while calmly and confidently speak to them. Usually I'll say something along the line....hello, you're very loud, and yes you smell my doggie.

I've yet to have a dog stop being aggressive and become my friend.

That said. They can sense good vs bad, and know senserity. In the cases my dogs continued to bark at someone, I've taken it serious. I've restrained him, but kept him ready to attack if necessary.

Disclaimer, use the technique at your own risk. One can't simply go from being afraid of dogs to earning their trust without learning and applying the process.
 
CZ that's a very beautiful German Shepherd. We've always had Shepherds. Our current furry child is the first in our family that isn't. He's a rescue and about half the size of our Shepherds, but he's also very vocal and protective?
 
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...and (so he told me) the rottweiler slammed into it.

Used to have a big grey Persian cat that would do that for sport. He'd go find the big dog that our neighbors would leave to roam the neighborhood while they were at work. He would entice the dog to chase him. And then he would lead the dog between two houses that had a fence between them. The cat could hurdle the fence, but the dog couldn't stop in time and would run into the fence. More than once I watched the dog fall for this and come back out from between the houses shaking his head and looking like he was seeing stars.

Of course, the fence could only take so much and one day the cat went over the fence, the dog just went through it. The cat had the presence of mind to climb a tree. The dog just looked satisfied. Since my cat had been the "agent provocateur" in the game, I replaced the fence.
 
lemaymiami wrote:
By the way I never knew a dog handler that didn't have at least one bad scar on one of their arms -from their own dog....

Well, even the best, most loyal dog can have a bad day and get irritated with his/her partner.
 
CZ that's a very beautiful German Shepherd. We've always had Shepherds. Our current furry child is the first in our family that isn't. He's a rescue and about half the size of our Shepherds, but he's also very vocal and protective?

Thank you. Actually that a girl. 11 years old, rescued from Kansas city shelter, and brought to IL. After our old Shepard died, my daughter only wants to adapt a puppy, and she found that one on the internet, so we went to Kansas to pick her up. Yes, very protective and like our trainer sad have an active-dominated personality.:)
 
Over the years I have been bitten 3 times and I killed 2 to prevent being bitten. 1. Attacked me out walking 3 days after a bad auto accident and the other I found in my backyard inside my fence who charged me . Sorry I disagree Roger hard to hit, they are easy to hit if you learned to use your front site and learn point shooting. I

I hate to hurt or kill any pet but I'm too old and crippled to be mauled or bit anymore!.
 
Only time I was ever in a fight with a dog, I grabbed it with one hand. It went for that arm, so I grabbed the other side of his/her head with the other hand. It started to thrash in every direction so I wrestled it into a scissor hold to retard its ability to make me loose my grasp.

That was about 5 seconds total. Glad the owner made it there when he did. 30 seconds seemed like 30 minutes.
 
I killed a black mutt that had my son down and was trying to bite his head and neck . I didn't ask the dog what his intentions were or about his feelings, I just killed him. The dog's owner paid for our medical expenses.

If you have a dog that may be dangerous, don't let him roam around.
 
If you have a dog that may be dangerous, don't let him roam around.
In some cases even that might not be enough. I have a nephew, in his 40s now, that wears his hair down over his ears because a chained German Shepherd got him down when he was 4. The dog obviously swallowed the top half of my nephew's right ear while he was chewing and biting the back of my nephew's head and neck. Hundreds of stitches, lots of antibiotics, and a long hospital stay were required, and my nephew almost died anyway. He's still terrified of large dogs.
Like I said though, that German Shepherd was chained. Yes, my nephew was trespassing in the neighbors yard. But he was 4 years old for goodness sakes!
I can't see much difference in leaving a vicious dog chained in a yard than leaving a loaded gun in a yard. Except, even a loaded gun won't "try" to kill a 4-year old if he gets too close.
The authorities saw it the same way I do - that dog was put down, and its owner, or at least the owner's insurance company paid my nephew's medical expenses. He's still scarred though, both emotionally and physically, and part of his right ear is still missing.
 
Back in USSR when I was 10 years old. The bunch of us stupid young boys went to "kolkhoz orchard" (means common) to steal some apples. We got chased by a huge guard dog. I got scarred pretty bad, for many years up until my 20th I was afraid of any dogs. That changed when I met my wife and her dog. It was a midsize mutt. Dogs actually smell people fear and if you afraid they can pick that smell up. After that, I had 4 dogs Scotch Collie, French bulldog and two German Shepherds. I understand that not everyone can overcome that feeling, guess I'm just lucky.
 
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Pepper spray, ASP baton, possibly a taser.

My brother and I used to dismount and put our bikes between us an potentially aggressive dogs. I had a pit bull come running out of a garage at me once on my way home from the the basketball courts. Dog went airborne about ten feet from me, gaping maw coming right at me, and I just popped it right in the face with this basketball, like I was doing a two-handed pass from the chest, but without passing the ball. Dog hit the ground hard and bounced back up, still snarling and snapping. Another face full of basketball. Four or five times this dog picked himself up and lunged at it. Each time it was met by a mouth full of basketball. Finally he picked himself up, but just sat there, kind of growling, but looking at me with the sideways, perplexed look. About that time the guy came out of the garage and called his dog back to him. Sometimes you have to improvise. Basketball wouldn't be first choice, but worked it worked in a pinch.
 
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