100 shots with lube pills

[oldelm]

mutton tallow

Steve,.....Here's a source for Mutton Tallow..........

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=3686&osCsid=aaae0f43bf46912d654775c2491a9452

 

[Steve499]

Well, that's easy enough! I've bought from Dixie for years and never noticed it. I'll order some next order. I've been wanting to compare it to my deer fat.

Thanks, oldelm.

Great bunch on here!

Steve

 

[dwave]

Well, I tried the pills out with real black and they do work better with that than 777. After 24 shots the barrel was still lookin' good. With the Remington I had to clean the cylinder pin off after about 30 shots. Accuracy did fall off too, after 50 shots I went from about a 2 1/2 inch group to a 4 inch group.

 

[pohill]

Deadly lube pill

Last summer...
The target was set at 50 feet. The balls missed the bullseye, but the lube pill hit it and actually sat there flaming for a few seconds, then burned through to the other side..
"If the right one don't get ya, then the left one will..." Tenn Ernie Ford

 

[Afy]

You just have to love them shoot 'n see targets.

 

[rifle]

Well Mec, I imagine I'll have ta try some ridig wads. I probably ain't tried any ridgid enough. Where does a person find ridgid wad material? Some sort of "felt" company?

 

[mec]

check the black powder essentials sticky and look for a post about a wad source by gatofeo

 

[rifle]

Thanks Mec. I'll do that. I'm going to try to remember where I got my sheet of felt from too. Some place in Cal. I think. They had different grades of the stuff so maybe I'll call and see what they got. I don't mind felt wads. They are kinda cool actually. I used to use em. I have a cool coupla neat felt wad cutters from Buffalo Arms. I put it in my Lee Auto Index loading press and the Lee Classic Turret press and just press away. The die type cutters make real nice wads. Cut perfectly. I use scissors to cut a strip offin the big sheet and then pass that thru the cutter die and make a bunch. I have a type of felt that is supposed to be stiff but it ain't real stiff. I didn't realize felt came stiffer yet. Hey ifin the hard felt does the job.....well....that's all that counts. What I wonder from what you said about it is....could a person use stiff hard felt wads with "no" lube on them and get good enough results? I know "Elmer Kieth" used old cowboy hat felt to make his wads fer his Navy Colt when he was a kid. When he grew up too I guess. Saturated it in some kind of lubey stuff. I'll have to look it up and see what he said he used if he did say it at all. hee hee Hey! How's the book business? You got anything about wads in yer book? Gonna make a revised edition some day and add anything about "Lube Pills"??? hee hee hee

 

[mec]

I had the notion that the stiff wool or felt wads might be more important than the lubricant but haven't tested it. I belive some of the others have found the lube is an important part of the mix. I'd advise going with some sort of lubricant as discussed here. I believe Gatofeo's formula is in one or more of the stickies.

 

[rifle]

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I tried to post a pic of the end of a ube pill cutter that Oldelm made and I saved but.....that's all I can get posted. I wanted to show several pics. Oldelm made his cutter with my instructions a long time ago. Maybe he can help post the pic? Where are ya Oldelm?

 

[rifle]

Mec, I guess there's something else I've gotta test out. More dang shooting to do. Woe is me. hee hee hee Heck I don't need a lube recipe. I was wondering what Elmer Keith used that's all. The recipes I stick with now work so good (in cap&ballers) I couldn't imagine a lube working any better. I like the idea that the one recipe is as simple as it gets. Equal parts bees wax, paraffin wax, and Mutton tallow. Nothing to complicate things. The other recipe with 4 ounces soy wax(cheaper than bees wax),paraffin wax,mutton tallow and 2 ounces of toilet bowl sealing wax is pretty simple too. Simple is good with that kind of stuff I think.You ever try that Gatefeo's lube? I haven't. It's fun trying different things ain't it? Hey why would my pics I try to post from Tiny pic.com not show the pics but just all that coded mumbo jumbo? I can post pics on other forums. Why not this one?

 

[Steve499]

Beats the snarf out of me, Rifle. I failed to post pictures just now, too. Maybe it's a glitch which will be corrected bye and bye.

Steve

 

[pohill]

posting pics

When using Photobucket, on the Voy forum, you copy and paste the HTML tag box. On this forum, I think you copy and paste the IMG code box.
Not sure about TinyPics.

 

[oldelm]

Rifle,......here's some pics of the lube pill cutters I made following your instructions awhile back,.....

here's a closeup,...shows how ends were made with one brass section inside the other,



then soldered together..............



Here's two cutters , .45 cal and .36 cal with lube pills made...(thick batch)



Rifle's lube pill cutter design works mighty fine....

I got some of Rifle's Lube Pills (Junk Yard Dog's with the Mutton Tallow) recently , but haven't had a chance to give 'em a try because it's been so darn cold,...but I'm sure they'll be better than ones I've previously made with Beeswax & Bore Butter.

 

[Doc Rizzi]

Mutton Tallow Source

Dixie Gun Works sell mutton tallow....it's very reasonable.

 

[rifle]

Thank You Oldelm fer posting the pics for folks to see. A pic is worth a thousand words. Yer a Gentlman and a scholar. A craftsman too.

 

[Afy]

That cutter looks really cool... how do you make one?

 

[oldelm]

Afy,....

I made them from brass tubing which I found at the local hardware store. The one for .36 cal. I used 13/32" short section of tubing soldered inside a 7/16 tube. The 13/32" tubing has an inside diameter of .375....pretty simple soldering job,..used butane torch & low temp solder.

With the .44cal (.45) I used a 17/32" outer tube with a 1/2" inner tube. The overall length of the finished lube cutter tube was 6-1/4", but they could be any length you're comfortable with. The tubing at the hardware store only came in lengths of 12" or so. I think it was for hobbyists.

They're easy to make, and fun to use. Hardest part, I guess, would be finding the brass tubing,...but try your local hardware store.

 

[Afy]

So if I get this correctly I take two tubes 12" in length outer 17/32 and inner of 1/2 of and inch and I am done... once they are soldered together....

Why two tubes? Heat?

 

[mukluk]

I'd guess the small tube section is the cutter itself and the larger long tube is so you can punch a number of pills then just dump them out (since the pills are smaller diameter they shouldn't stick inside as they would if the tube was all the small diameter).

 

[Steve499]

Afy,you only need a very short piece of tubing for the smaller diameter cutting end. If you cut a piece off with a tubing cutter, the cut end with it's diameter reduced a little by the compression of the cutter becomes the business end of your tool. Then solder that short piece inside of the longer, larger diameter piece. The only purpose that long piece serves is to make a place to hold on to your cookie cutter as you use it. It's length needs only to be what you are comfortable handling. The reason for two tubes is so that the inside diameter of your cutter is larger beyond the cutting end. That way you can cut pill after pill and the pill column has no friction from the walls as it grows with each sucessive pill you cut.

Steve

 

[dwave]

BP results

I shot 24 rounds using real Black Powder. They definally work better with real black. I used the same pistol used in the 100 shot test.

Load Data:
#10 CCIs (I really don't like these caps.)
15 grs. Goex FFFg
Lube pill
.375 Round Ball
10 Yard distance (sun was in my eyes otherwise)

Nice group going on. This close my gun shoots a little high.

Barrel looks great. After 24 shots, it was still very accurate.

 

[rifle]

Good group there dwave. That's meat in the pot, so to speak. hee hee Liked the pic of the barrel. Cool. Now, what was that recipe you used fer the pills? Angel hair, pigeon puss and octapus urine steeped in the acrid air of a volcano and chilled in the South Pole? hee hee

 

[dwave]

Close....I substituted the Pigeon puss with a couple squid eyeballs. Worked great!

I used the same mix as before, same batch really, 50/50 mix of beeswax and crisco.