Mec, I guess there's something else I've gotta test out. More dang shooting to do. Woe is me. hee hee hee Heck I don't need a lube recipe. I was wondering what Elmer Keith used that's all. The recipes I stick with now work so good (in cap&ballers) I couldn't imagine a lube working any better. I like the idea that the one recipe is as simple as it gets. Equal parts bees wax, paraffin wax, and Mutton tallow. Nothing to complicate things. The other recipe with 4 ounces soy wax(cheaper than bees wax),paraffin wax,mutton tallow and 2 ounces of toilet bowl sealing wax is pretty simple too. Simple is good with that kind of stuff I think.You ever try that Gatefeo's lube? I haven't. It's fun trying different things ain't it? Hey why would my pics I try to post from Tiny pic.com not show the pics but just all that coded mumbo jumbo? I can post pics on other forums. Why not this one?