10mm pistols old and new

[Sergei Mosin]

I acquired a new 10mm pistol today - a Glock 20 Gen 4. It makes an interesting contrast with my old 10mm, a Smith & Wesson Model 1006. Polymer versus solid block of steel, striker versus DA/SA, 15-round magazine versus 9... The Smith isn't going anywhere but, despite the reservations I have about Glocks, if you want a big 10mm pistol to carry afield and not worry if it gets dirty or dinged up, a Glock is probably the best way to go. Seems like the old S&W pistols are starting to get into collector territory these days, but I don't think I'll ever have to worry about that with a Glock. Anyway, I guess we'll see how I like this one...

 

[beeenbag]

I'd be interested in reading a side by side compare and contrast range report.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

I'm not a fan of Glocks at all, but the utility is undeniable.

However, for those willing to wait, SA has confirmed they are working on an XDm in 10mm. Maybe it's six of one, half dozen of another. To some folks a plastic gun is a plastic gun regardless of who makes it, but I've always found the XD and XDm guns to be more ergonomic.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/03/08/611722/

 

[Sergei Mosin]

Glocks are definitely utilitarian.

I've never been much on the XD and its variants, although I do like the grip safety. Now if HK made a 10mm pistol...but they don't.

Shooting these two side by side sounds like fun. I'll have to do that.

 

[redbullitt]

I have a glock 20 and a glock 40. Will get a red dot for the g40 soon, as it seems like the perfect candidate for a gun like that!

I have had no issues at all with the g20, not sure about the 40 yet since I have not had it nearly as long. The G20 gets duty rotation whenever I can carry it.

Handload or check out underwood ammo for actual 10mm loadings. Most factory stuff is 40 SW basically.

You will love it!

 

[Zaydok Allen]

Now if HK made a 10mm pistol...

I'd have a sign in my yard that read "Kidney for Sale" so fast, it'd make people's heads spin.

 

[dredd]

I liked my G20 Gen 4 so much, I picked up a G29 for my LTC.

The G20 was my first plastic gun. I needed a "Tool" with a big punch & high capacity.
The Glock fit the requirement. It's not very sexy, but most hammers, wrenches & screw drivers aren't either.

I also load for it, which is a HUGE plus.

 

[gotboostvr]

I liked my G20 Gen 4 so much, I picked up a G29 for my LTC.

The G20 was my first plastic gun. I needed a "Tool" with a big punch & high capacity.
The Glock fit the requirement. It's not very sexy, but most hammers, wrenches & screw drivers aren't either.

I also load for it, which is a HUGE plus.

I really wish I could shoot Glocks worth a hoot.
The G20 is one heckuva nice package. Capacity, power, sight radius and weight it's got it all.
But over the course of a few thousand rounds I discovered I couldn't shoot my G34 to save my life.
Few years later decided to give it another try and put about another 1k through a G21 and swore never again.

Maybe this XD will be the one, a Double stack RIA 10mm ticks most my boxes. But I prefer single stack 1911's. Maybe the Ruger!

I'm just excited there's more and more choices!

 

[Stevie-Ray]

My faithful and still quite lovely Colt Delta Elite was retired to the safe, and replaced for woods duty by a Glock 29-quite a bit easier to carry than the 20. Love it, even though it's quite the ugly duckling compared to the near 30 year old Colt. Certainly not worried about uglying that up in the woods.

 

[Sergei Mosin]

I'd have a sign in my yard that read "Kidney for Sale" so fast, it'd make people's heads spin.

Somewhere I read about a guy who built himself a 10mm USP, which I think started life as a .45. More money and effort than I'd want to put into it but it was neat.

 

[gotboostvr]

Somewhere I read about a guy who built himself a 10mm USP, which I think started life as a .45. More money and effort than I'd want to put into it but it was neat.

Pretty sure I have that write up saved.
I want to say he reamed a 40sw to 10mm and filed a little inside the mag well and used Tangfolio magazines as well as a beefed up recoil spring.

I'll post it if I can dig it up later.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

Somewhere I read about a guy who built himself a 10mm USP, which I think started life as a .45. More money and effort than I'd want to put into it but it was neat.

I believe I read that thread as well on the HK forum or on another Google searched site. It looked well done, and while I don't own a USP of any kind, it seems to be the platform for it.

I wish they would build an all steel, no polymer, HK45 like gun specifically for the 10mm auto.

 

[gotboostvr]

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...&share_tid=232914&share_fid=1748&share_type=t

Here's a link to one. Apparently it's just a recoil spring, STI magazine and a chamber reamer and you're good to go.

Makes me REAL tempted to pick up a surplused USP 40S&W.

 

[Omaney]

I've had a gen 3 Smith & Wesson auto. I'm not sure why you'd think the GLOCK is better suited for anything. They're as stout as anything out there.

 

[stoky]

Dan Wesson is now making a 10mm, with the curious moniker of 1881 Bruin Bronze.
It looks more like a (really nice) steel 1911 long slide to me............ but what do I know?
Be firmly seated if you're checkin the price.

 

[Deaf Smith]

1881 Bruin Bronze? Isn't bronze third place? Would one really want to use a gun on bears that was only third?

Anyway I have a Colt Delta Elite and it works very well. Narry a problem! Nice thing is afield one can use the IWB Colt .45 Government holsters and carry the gun in town before going afield! I find for most work the 180 gr JHP factory loads do all that is needed (yes they are watered down 10mm loads but a 180gr at 1150 fps is nothing to sneeze at.)

Deaf

 

[coyotehitman]

Glocks are definitely utilitarian.

I've never been much on the XD and its variants, although I do like the grip safety. Now if HK made a 10mm pistol...but they don't.

Shooting these two side by side sounds like fun. I'll have to do that................Somewhere I read about a guy who built himself a 10mm USP, which I think started life as a .45. More money and effort than I'd want to put into it but it was neat..

Yep, for the cost of a USP 40, aftermarket barrel reamed to 10mm, recoil spring, and a spare mag you can have your wish.

 

[Riomouse911]

Ruger is now making SR 1911's in 10mm, and they'll probably be for a third the price of the Dan Wesson. (The DW is a NICE longslide gun, but $$$!!) If Ruger ever makes a 6" version I may just buy one.
EAA witness CZ-75 clone 10mm guns seem to be well received by those who review them, and they're priced very reasonably. I've just never seen/held one so I can't compare.

 

[stoky]

If Ruger ever makes a 6" version I may just buy one.

me 2
what's need got to do with it?

 

[JONWILL]

The 1006 you have is worth some serious coin. I regret selling mine. The one worth the most is the 1076.

I think you are smart to get the Glock for general use. Using the 1006 will decrease its value. The great thing about the finish, depending on whether is laser etched or stamped, is it can be bead blasted and look new. Don't do that with the laser etch it will remove the markings

 

[TN Outlaw]

I have a Glock 20sf and have been very happy with it so far.

I really bought it mainly so i could buy a LWD bbl in 9x25 Dillon but i was also interested in the 10mm so it was win/win.

I love the ease and versatility of swapping calibers in this platform. I was surprised to find how well i shot the full power Underwood ammo. 200gr JHP shoots the tightest in mine. With +2 mag ext i found mine actually holds and reliably feeds 18 rounds. Carrying 19 rounds of Underwood full house 10mm shouldn't be this ez, but it is.

 

[d'zaster]

Im running LWD 357 Sig bbl in my G20SF at the moment. It's nice to be able to switch back and forth. What I have not determined is which is more accurate. Obviously this depends on many factors but is a great excuse to go to the range!!

 

[bnolsen]

The Smith isn't going anywhere but, despite the reservations I have about Glocks, if you want a big 10mm pistol to carry afield and not worry if it gets dirty or dinged up, a Glock is probably the best way to go. Seems like the old S&W pistols are starting to get into collector territory these days, but I don't think I'll ever have to worry about that with a Glock. Anyway, I guess we'll see how I like this one...

The glock 20 is a good utility open carry pistol (with retention holster) that handles 10mm well. A solid choice for back country. I've had a gen2 since the early clinton ban days.

 

[Sergei Mosin]

Yep, for the cost of a USP 40, aftermarket barrel reamed to 10mm, recoil spring, and a spare mag you can have your wish.

Simpler and cheaper than I remember it being. Hmm...

I've had a gen 3 Smith & Wesson auto. I'm not sure why you'd think the GLOCK is better suited for anything. They're as stout as anything out there.

As I see it, the Glock's advantages are these:

-lighter weight
-higher capacity
-lower price
-greater availability of parts and accessories.

The Smith's main advantage is this:

-DA/SA trigger (I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm still not terribly comfortable with carrying a stock Glock. I need to experiment with the NY-1 trigger spring and see if that helps.)

Don't get me wrong, I like the big old 1006, but the market had its say and 3rd generation Smiths are, with the exception of occasional runs for law enforcement sales, long out of production. I don't for a second buy the myth of Glock Perfection but it's a far more economical choice with some practical advantages too.

 

[TN Outlaw]

I know what you mean by being a little uncomfortable with a stock Glock loaded. Ive been pretty confident with a Glock trigger since ive had mine but i keep it in a kydex holster and i know i wont accidentally bump the trigger in that holster.

Honesty, it took a while for me to trust carrying a 1911 in cond 1. It earned my trust and im alright with it now. It bothered me more than a Glock did at 1st and ive handled 1911's for years before ever touching a Glock, go figure?