124gr Gold Dot with Longshot for 9mm?
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BluewaterLa
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Welcome to THR !
I'm not familiar with Speer 124g gold dots having not personally loaded them.
I've used 124 gr plated and fmj bullets with longshot loaded with 5.2 g all the way to 5.7 g. I Will suggest you start low at 5.0 g and work your load up slowly.
You can get load data for any powder off of the manufactures website.
Experimenting with LOUDshot
can be fun and on the economical side,
I've found it to be clean,accurate and has one of the loudest reports of any powder I've used yet !
Check the manufactures website and the bullet construction you are using to get a starting load. Again start low and work up, I loaded five to ten rounds with each .1 or .2g increase to test rounds and carefully watch for signs of over pressure. Some report that they get better accuracy with LS at higher end of the load chart, I've found accuracy to be excellent at the 5.2 to 5.5g range for plinking and paper at 15 to 25 yards. I've come to like the powder due to price and availability, over 1000 rounds in a month I'm waiting on more 9 projectiles.
Hope this helps and sorry for the long post, be SAFE and have fun !
I'm not familiar with Speer 124g gold dots having not personally loaded them.
I've used 124 gr plated and fmj bullets with longshot loaded with 5.2 g all the way to 5.7 g. I Will suggest you start low at 5.0 g and work your load up slowly.
You can get load data for any powder off of the manufactures website.
Experimenting with LOUDshot
can be fun and on the economical side,I've found it to be clean,accurate and has one of the loudest reports of any powder I've used yet !
Check the manufactures website and the bullet construction you are using to get a starting load. Again start low and work up, I loaded five to ten rounds with each .1 or .2g increase to test rounds and carefully watch for signs of over pressure. Some report that they get better accuracy with LS at higher end of the load chart, I've found accuracy to be excellent at the 5.2 to 5.5g range for plinking and paper at 15 to 25 yards. I've come to like the powder due to price and availability, over 1000 rounds in a month I'm waiting on more 9 projectiles.
Hope this helps and sorry for the long post, be SAFE and have fun !
gamestalker
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Yes, Yes, and Yes!
I don't have my logs right in front of me, but I believe I have some Speer data I got directly from them for Longshot, I'll dig around for that. But in the mean time you can use jacketed data for another bullet of same weight, or similar weight.
Hodgdon has data for a Sierra 125 gr. FMJ, as follows:
Longshot= 4.7 grs. - 5.7 grs.
I've used this data for Gold Dots and other JHP's, which the Gold Dot is in the same data class as a jacketed bullet. this load is not a sweet little powder puff, it's a full performing load. But Long Shot is so easy to work up, in that it has such a large charge table, it isn't spikey or temperamental. It does perform more consistently and accurately when worked up to the upper end though. So in this respect, Longshot is best suited for full house loads, and it doesn't do well when loaded at the bottom end, it needs those top end operating pressures to attain an efficient and complete burn.
GS
I don't have my logs right in front of me, but I believe I have some Speer data I got directly from them for Longshot, I'll dig around for that. But in the mean time you can use jacketed data for another bullet of same weight, or similar weight.
Hodgdon has data for a Sierra 125 gr. FMJ, as follows:
Longshot= 4.7 grs. - 5.7 grs.
I've used this data for Gold Dots and other JHP's, which the Gold Dot is in the same data class as a jacketed bullet. this load is not a sweet little powder puff, it's a full performing load. But Long Shot is so easy to work up, in that it has such a large charge table, it isn't spikey or temperamental. It does perform more consistently and accurately when worked up to the upper end though. So in this respect, Longshot is best suited for full house loads, and it doesn't do well when loaded at the bottom end, it needs those top end operating pressures to attain an efficient and complete burn.
GS
Go to http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/ and find the data you need.
tightgroup tiger
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5.5 gr of Longshot is with 124gr Xtreme plated is one of my favorite loads. It has a little heavier recoil but is easy to control and is very accurate. That would equate to your Gold Dots.
I wouldn't shoot it in a PF-9 but in my Shield and my full sized 9mms its a pleasure to shoot.
I wouldn't shoot it in a PF-9 but in my Shield and my full sized 9mms its a pleasure to shoot.
ArchAngelCD
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I use 2 powders for loading the 9mm, W231 for lead and FMJ range ammo and Longshot for more serious work. Longshot is amazing in the 9mm but so is HS-6. Sorry, I have not loaded a Gold Dot bullet in the 9mm yet because of costs and availability but I have used a Hornady XTP bullet and when I do I charge to the Max, 5.7gr and that ammo is accurate for me...
philbo
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My load with the 124 grn Gold Dots has been 5.8 grains loagshot, 1.125 OAL. Great load
gamestalker
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As Arch indicated, HS6 is as well a very good full performing powder for 9mm, of which I have also loaded a bunch with. However, HS6 also has a pretty short charge table .4 grs. from min to max, vs a full grain with LS. But I've never personally experienced sudden pressure spikes during load development.
GS
GS
Vol46
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I have not used 124 gr. Gold Dots, but I have successfully used Longshot with 124 gr. Xtreme plated HP and XTPs. Both are very accurate & reliable loaded near the top of the range - 5.6 grains.
Dudedog
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I have found either 5 or 5.3 grains of Longshot work well for me with MBC 125 gr Lead conicals, Was not after the Longshot for lead and it would not be my first choice but it was available. Seems forgiving as far as working up. 5.3was giving me about 1090fps out of a Tarus PT99.
It is LOUD, has lots of muzzle flash, meters decent.
It is LOUD, has lots of muzzle flash, meters decent.
Ive been using 5.3+gr of LS in my LC9 with a selection of different bullets in my LC9 for a couple of years. Berrys and Renniers included. I also use it in my 40 and my 10, it gives great performance in all 3. My load was chosen as being in the midrange, and thats what my Lil' Dandy delivers. This type of powder seems to work best in upper range loads, not that it won't work at lower pressures, but it seems more consistent at higher working pressures.
Just remembered another good reason for LS in the 9mm. If you have a rough feed or feed the same bullet off the top several times the powder ties up enough space in the case a bullet "setback" is unlikely. This in a personal defense weapon, that is unloaded and loaded lot is worth a lot in the area of safety.
gamestalker
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Yep, like I said, it's my go to combination for a SD carry load. I run 5.8 grs. Longshot, CCI-500, and without looking at my notes, I think I seat around 1.100".
THE FOLLOWING DATA EXCEEDS PUBLISHED MAXIMUM
GS
THE FOLLOWING DATA EXCEEDS PUBLISHED MAXIMUM
Now the data for a 125 gr. FMJ Sierra is 4.7 gr. - 5.7 gr., and the data for Berry TP is 4.8 gr. - 5.8 gr. which I assume is a little bit higher due to the reduced friction of a plated bullet vs jacketed. It has been my experience that Longshot performs at it's best, and optimally, when worked up close to max, or at maximum. It isn't necessary to use a magnum primer, as I've been asked that question a number of times. And in fact I have tried it with magnum primers, and the result of no discernible advantage or disadvantage, even when run over the chrony everything seemed the same. GS
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