$150,000 federal grant fixing Mexican trucks

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We ought to just annex Mexico and grant statehood. We have fireplace police to make sure we aren't burning our fireplaces's.
Feds, we need more of them.

Vick

A surge in smog over the long haul

Report: Coming influx of Mexican trucks 'serious'
By Michael Gardner
COPLEY NEWS SERVICE
March 15, 2006

SACRAMENTO – An anticipated surge in long-haul truck traffic from Mexico will deliver more than loads of produce, electronics and clothing to California.

It will also bring a lot of smog.

California's air-quality regulators say the imminent opening of the state's freeways and ports of entry to older, diesel-fueled Mexican trucks could dramatically increase toxic pollutants, a new source of smog equal to 2.2 million additional cars on the road.

“This would have a serious impact on the region's health and particularly on the health of those community members living adjacent to any heavily-traveled routes,” warns a state Air Resources Board report released late Monday.

“Additionally, the supplemental emissions generated by the increased truck traffic could impede California's progress toward attaining the federal air quality standards, which could potentially jeopardize billions of dollars in federal transportation funding,” the report says.

As a result, state and San Diego officials say they may have to impose more stringent local standards to offset the added pollution from Mexican trucks.

Opening California's borders to more trucks from Mexico is part of the North American Free Trade Agreement, signed by former President Clinton a dozen years ago.

A series of legal challenges stalled the opening of California's border to long-distance foreign trucks after NAFTA became law. But in 2004, the U.S. Supreme Court cleared the last legal roadblock when it ruled that the federal government was not required to prepare complete environmental studies on impacts associated with foreign traffic.

The Bush administration is expected to erase the existing border-truck policy, which had limited most Mexican truckers to a 20-mile zone within California. The air board's report said an announcement repealing the limit is “imminent.”

Regulators estimate that daily truck crossings from Mexico will increase from 3,500 to 17,500, spewing another 50 tons of smog. A quarter of those trucks were on the road before 1980, and as many as nine of every 10 were built before 1993, according to the air board report.

California's major truck entry points are at Otay Mesa in San Diego and Calexico in Imperial County. About 3,000 trucks now cross at Otay Mesa, said Robert Reider, who monitors the issue for the San Diego County Pollution Control District.

One out of every 10 trucks rolling through San Diego County at any given time is registered in Mexico, he said.

The San Ysidro port of entry serves mostly passenger vehicles.

San Diego officials have long struggled to comply with federal standards for cleaner air. The region risks losing federal dollars as punishment for not improving air quality.

“If we want overall reductions, we have to get them from somewhere,” Reider said. “It would have to come from some other source. We need reductions, period.”

Kenn Morris, director of Crossborder Business Associates in San Diego, said the potential impact may be overstated because many trucks are now crossing and staying within the 20-mile limit.

“The fact that they go a few extra miles to Los Angeles shouldn't scare anyone,” Morris said, noting the positive economic effects on both sides of the border.

“While it may sound like a lot, there are a lot of emission sources around us that, on a daily basis or in a few days, create 50 tons of emissions,” he said.

The threat of more polluters on California roads comes at a time when Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and state lawmakers are scrambling to place a massive bond package on the ballot that would set aside about $1 billion to help reduce pollution. Diesel truck emissions are a primary target.

The Mexican government is taking steps to encourage cleaner trucks, according to California officials.

Mexico has promised to require the use of cleaner-burning, low-sulfur diesel fuel starting in 2007 in the border regions and to extend the standard countrywide by 2009. The United States will implement a similar fuel standard this year.

In addition, Mexico's state-run oil monopoly Pemex will commit $2.5 billion over the next five years to upgrade its refineries to produce cleaner fuels, according to the air board report.

“They're sensitive to the environment, too,” Reider said of Mexican officials. “They're collaborating with us.”

California smog-fighters have taken some steps to combat truck emissions. Armed with legislation carried by then-state Sen. Steve Peace, D-Chula Vista, the air board in 1998 launched inspection stations near Otay Mesa and Calexico.

According to the air board report, “the test failure rate in the border region has consistently been higher than throughout the rest of the state, which lends credence to the generally held assumption that Mexican commercial vehicles are older and dirtier than those registered in California.”

Two years ago, Schwarzenegger signed legislation requiring Mexican trucks to meet federal clean-air standards before entering California. Trucks in the future also must use the cleaner diesel formulated to meet U.S. standards.

Other efforts are under way to reduce truck emissions.

In San Diego County, a $150,000 federal grant is helping finance advanced pollution control devices for Mexican trucks. The technology costs about $4,000 per truck.

Long-haul trucks also are more than likely to be newer and cleaner, minimizing impacts around the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, some officials said.

The California Trucking Association was sharply critical of the state's efforts to curb pollution by Mexican trucks. Stephanie Williams, of the association, predicted the state will go after California trucks to make up for the elevated smog levels from Mexican trucks.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20060315-9999-1n15trucks.html
 
Awesome idea!

State passes tighter emissions laws > American companies are forced to pay to upgrade their trucks > Profits at home decrease > Mexican companies force their way in > State pays to upgrade their trucks with our tax dollars.

So they take away our money, take away our jobs, give them to another country and fund it with the money they took from us. This country is royally screwed.
 
Keep it up, guys. Just keep it up. US truckers have to heel to enviro laws; Mexican truckers get a pass because our environmental laws don't apply to foreign trucks inside the US or so says our SCOTUS. Then we pay to upgrade their trucks!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

There is a tipping point out there where the patience of Joe and Martha Sixpack will simply run out. I honestly believe our ruling class thinks Joe and Martha will remain silent and compliant.
 
I wonder how many of those trucks are running two-stroke diesels?

Two-stroke diesels have been more or less completely banned in the US, at least for commercial purposes. There's some still running in private hands and a few rural school districts. They're a serious issue...the tech is based on the motor originally used in the Sherman tank which in turn was the mainstay of the US bus fleet for over 30 years...the 671 straight six two-stroke. Variants ended up in trucks too. On top of everything else they usually leak like giant Shovelhead Harleys...from the AMF years no less.
 
Tipping point, sure as hell. "Dubai" was visceral. This one will be too. It's pure effrontery.

The Great Few keep slapping us.

One of these days we just might start slapping back...
 
Aside from the taxpayer paying and the smog produced in a county trying to comply with federal mandates there is the safety issue. How are the Mexican drivers trained and licensed?

Are they subject to the same rules as American drivers? Do their trucks also comply with the same safety inspections? Do they have a "diplomatic immunity" of sorts from California or Federal law?

At the current rate of 3,500 trucks per day entering the country, how in the world do they expect the highway system to keep up with 17,500 per day?

I think a lot of people on the highways are going to wind up dead or crippled from this. How many of those drivers are illegal aliens? How many of those will use this as an excuse to get into the country and stay, leaving the trucking outfits to find more drivers.

This doesn't bode well.

Too many bureaucrats with responsibility and no accountability.

Vick
 
Can'thavenothingood, you ain't just whistlin' Dixie.

I had this discussion with a friend in the field a couple of years ago. For reference, he was a driver for 15-ish years, a safety inspector for one company or another for another 10, and now teaches several safety courses both to drivers and insurance, state, and company level inspectors.

According to him (he is a man prone to hyperbole now and then, but he looked awful serious), Mexican trucks operate nowhere near the American level of safety. If you do something simple, say replacing a damaged lug nut, it goes in a logbook. The stud has to be inspected, too. In fact, with the wheel off, it's prime time to inspect the wheel bearing. You get where I'm going with this. Not all companies do it like they should, but his mission is to change that fact.

Working on the same example, he has inspected a number of Mexican trucks down in the valley. At the time, Mexican trucks were limited to a certain distance into the US. So, if you found a Mexican truck up on a lift having a tire changed in Laredo, you might just walk up and check it out. You might, in fact, find that the lug nuts were actually metal filing receptacles, and that the wheel bearing is so incredibly worn that the hub wobbles 10 degrees under hand pressure. I made the mistake of getting him started on brakes. If you do a brake job on your two ton car, you'll probably take a look at the lines to make sure they're in good shape. Well, if you're running a Mexican trucking company, you might well ignore the cracked brake line on the forty ton rig.

And that's just the truck. The key to the whole system, the driver, is an even worse situation.
 
Jim March

I wonder how many of those trucks are running two-stroke diesels?

You just made me laugh hard. I'm no Diesel mechanic, but even I know it is flat out impossible to get two strokes to be anywhere near as efficient as a four stroke. It would be easier to swap the engine. As for the lug nut issue, ever see a pickup with 5 lug wheels and only 3 lug nuts on a wheel.:uhoh:
 
How about the fact that the drivers are going to be working on american soil and be getting paid mexican wages. How is that fair for american companies or american drivers? Mark
 
There's nothing fair about it, Railroader. We've been bought and sold and the majority of us won't know about it till it's too late, which it may in fact has likely already occured.
Biker
 
There's nothing fair about it, Railroader. We've been bought and sold and the majority of us won't know about it till it's too late, which it may in fact has likely already occured.

True, in order for the new "global economy" to function America's quality of
life must go down and I believe we're on our way. Now when I say we
that is approx. 50-60% of our society.
 
Hey all them trucks bringing in farm equipment need to be kept running in tip top shape, keeping costs down for farmers and all means you need lots of new farm equipment after all.

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Royal BS.

We give other countries tons of OUR money for usless crap, give forign companies money to upgrade, our companies go bankrupt, move here from another country and you are damn near guaranteed to be able to get a grant to open a buisness and not pay taxes, yet if an american wants one forget about it.

This is nothing new, but it is redicules just the same.
 
Reading this story got me steamed. I know I'm not alone. It seems to sum up so much of what's wrong with current policies coming from the Caliph of Crawford.

Let's just hand Mexico our trucking industry--for the good of the United States of Corporate North America. Sure. American truckers keep this country alive. It doesn't get any more "American" than the trucker. Hey, weren't truckers supposed to be the "eyes and ears" of our civil defense against terrorism not that long ago? I guess Mexican eyes and ears are better, huh?

The absurdity of all this is only exceeded by the effrontery. First the ports, now the highways. First the skin, then the nervous system. Brain's already gone.

I think our truckers ought to just stop driving--after they converge on D.C. and make their point.
 
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I've got my own DOT Authority for my one truck.

Where's my Federal Grant $ to upgrade my '98 Detroit?

Mexican trucks & Mexican drivers running around all over the US. Geez, where to start?

One of the mistakes in the article is the total number of trucks running on the highways. It will be the same number of trucks hauling the same amount of freight...more of them will be gross polluters and gross safety regulation violators. The Mexican trucks will undercut freight rates to a ridiculous level and American truckers won't be able to stay in business.

They don't even have a CDL system in Mexico, nor hours of service regulations. That means that a Mexican driver will come up here and drive all that he wants to...he's not about to be bothered by any silly Hours of Service regulations. Since most OTR truckers get paid by the mile, this is an unfair advantage in their favor. How about DOT enforcement? Well, the truth is that in most states the DOT Officers won't even look twice at a Mexican truck because they don't want the hassle of trying to deal with the language issue...despite the requirement for Mexican drivers to speak adequate English to function in the US. How many DOT Officers in Indiana speak Spanish?

Did you know that they are subject to cabotage laws? The foreign trucks are only supposed to deliver a load from Mexico and pick up a load in the US that returns to Mexico...they are not allowed to transport stuff point-to-point within the US. Again, enforcement is nonexistent. This is a customs enforcement issue...there are no US Customs Officers at state DOT facilities (scale houses, AKA "Chicken Coops"). State DOT has zero authority to enforce this. Another case of our laws being a joke.

Here's the bottom line real deal. Safety and regulatory compliance costs money. The Mexican trucks won't bother to comply with our laws because they have nothing to lose. If they get busted or a truck gets siezed it's no big deal comapred to the increased profits from operating as an "Outlaw" outfit. If they're involved in a wreck and you sue them do you think you'll ever collect?

There are plenty of scumbag freight brokers in the US that will load Mexican trucks for 75 cents a mile, keeping the balance of the freight charges paid by the shipper for themselves. It's a dog-eat-dog industry, and brokers appear and disappear as if by magic.

If this were France, the American truckers would block the border crossings and riot in the streets to force the government to protect them from unfair competition. In America we give the unfair foreign competitor grants of money to operate their pirate outfits within our borders and put our own citizens on the ropes.

Just wait until one of these Mexican trucks with no brakes, bald tires, and no wipers or defrosters kills a school bus load of kids in Minnesota...then folks will start asking questions. But it won't change a thing.
 
Just wait until one of these Mexican trucks with no brakes, bald tires, and no wipers or defrosters kills a school bus load of kids in Minnesota...then folks will start asking questions. But it won't change a thing.

Why do I have to wish for people to get hurt in order to get change.:( :banghead:
 
Hey, Crosshair...let me clarify.

I'm not wishing death and destruction, grief and misery on anyone. I am fairly certain that it will come to pass because of this decision to allow trucks from Mexico free access to our highways.

I do wish that our government would develop a smidgen of common sense and refrain from making ridiculously stupid decisions in the name of some indefinable "greater good".
 
Wonder how many illegals you can pack into a semi-trailer? Wonder how many get checked?
Biker
 
Between the irate Muslim kids with rented SUVs and the soot-spewing 18-wheelers that are DUIs waiting to happen, our highways should become very eventful in the days to come. God bless progress and the North American way!
 
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