1858 Bison

[damoc]

This was a bit of a panic purchase they had 5 in stock at Midway and I thought I better buy it while I could and it is a nice looking nice feeling piece.

 

[gtrgy888]

It seems only the brassers are left online. Are black powder revolvers the new cure for Covid? Cuz I thought for sure the piles of toilet paper and hand sanitizer would have beat it by now.

 

[LightninST]

Thanks for posting Good info !

 

[arcticap]

How much powder was loaded and what type, homemade or commercial?
I wonder if the chrony was affected by the cold temp.

 

[damoc]

35 grains commercial BP that non granulated Reenactor BP from Goex. That's a little over what is recommended as max. Maybe so on the chrony its a cheap one so I don't expect too much.

 

[windini]

"Now, let's go crunch the numbers."

Informative video, thanks!

I almost bought one of those, but had an embarrassing moment of fiscal responsibility...

I zoomed in on your notes and did an average fps (excluding obvious misreads by the chrony) and came up with a 134 fps increase in velocity for the 12" Buffalo version. A significant increase! I'm looking forward to your accuracy test results.

 

[TTv2]

About the only brass frame percussion revolver that I would feel confident in lasting over general use is the Pietta Pocket Remington in .31 caliber. I don't see how you could break those with only 10 grain powder charges and a 50 grain round ball.

That said, I do feel the brass Remington repros will hold up better vs the Colt's. Something tells me having the recoil shield attached to to a top strap is going to warp less than the Colt open top frame will. I could be wrong.

 

[noelf2]

Something tells me having the recoil shield attached to to a top strap is going to warp less than the Colt open top frame will.

The frames don't warp and stretch so much as the recoil shield gets peened by the cylinder. Main problem is damage to the brass recoil shield which will open up the barrel/cylinder gap.

 

[paul harm]

I think if loads are kept to 28grs and less you won't have any problems.

 

[Malachi Leviticus Blue]

I've had some brass framed revolvers and they have held up to the use I've put them through, but for most of them that wasn't much.
I personally feel that weighing all variables that the brass frame Colts end up feeling to be closer to being historically correct than the brass frame Remingtons even though most of both out there take significant poetic license in their construction.
When considering strength, I'm more concerned with the very thin brass at the bottom of the frame on a brass framed Remington, then I am of the brass framed Colt in general..

 

[TTv2]

I forgot about that thin area around the loading lever. Yeah, I can see that being a problem, but I've never heard of the brass frames breaking in that area. That said, if/when the brass frame stretches on a Remington, it's game over man, GAME OVER, but with a Colt you can strip the gun down and replace the frame with another one.

I'd wonder how the NMA brass frame would hold up with a .36 caliber? Pietta only makes them with a steel frame.

 

[arcticap]

I'd wonder how the NMA brass frame would hold up with a .36 caliber? Pietta only makes them with a steel frame.

The 1862 Pietta Spiller & Burr is similar to a brass Remington.
It's possible to imprint the recoil shield if firing too many heavy loads, but most have said that they haven't had any problems.
This thread shows an old used Spiller that Pohill bought that had an imprint on the recoil shield. SEE POST #4 --->>> https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/spiller-burr.203022/

EMF: --->>> https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1862-SPILLER-BURR-36-6-1-2-538p1846.htm