185g XTP and Universal load?

[Magoo]

I've searched and searched and can't find load data for the Hornady XTP 185g over Universal . Can anybody point towards some data? I suppose I can call Hornady tommorrow also.

ETA: this is for .45acp

 

[rcmodel]

Assuming you are asking about .45 ACP?

Hodgdon website has it for a Hornady 185 JHP.
www.hodgdon.com

Look there.

rc

 

[Magoo]

Wow, that was quick! I was hoping you'd be one of the folks to respond. Thank you.

Okay, I'd found that but wasn't positive it was okay because it didn't say XTP specifically. I'm new to this and trying to be careful. My ignorance with the lingo and with what=what is slowly wearing off.

So you can use data listed for JSWC for JHP (?). It's the jacketed or not part that matters-along with wieght, not the shape? I could use the same loadings for JRN and JWC (if a JWC is even made)?

And yes, I did mean for .45. I'll go back and add that now.

 

[noylj]

When you switch from one style of jacketed bullet to another, the main thing that had to change is the COL. You need to work out the COL appropriate for your gun and each individual bullet you reload.
What I do is compile all the reloading manuals and loads from Handloader magazine into a single spreadsheet. So, the following is my total information for 185gn jacketed bullets and Universal powder. Do not believe my compilation but go to the bullet or powder manufacturer's site or other reloading manuals to verify.
.45 ACP
Bullet Weight Powder Weight Velocity Start/Max Power Factor COL
J-SWC 185 Universal 5.8 Target 1.260
J-SWC 185 Universal 6.0 908 Start 168 1.195
J-SWC 185 Universal 6.4 977 Max 181
J-SWC 185 Universal 6.4 977 Max 181 1.195
GD-HP 185 Universal 6.9 851 Start 157 1.200
JHP, JSP, JFP 185 Universal 7.2 993 Max 184
GD-HP 185 Universal 7.7 991 Max 183 1.200
I have no XTP data, but one always starts with the lowest starting load they find. The 5.8gn is a target/bullseye load that SHOULD be more than safe in any modern, well made and maintained gun properly chambered for .45 ACP. I believe this to be a Handloader load.
Establish the longest COL that works with your gun and a given bullets.
You will noticed that, with the specific equipment, components, and barrels used by two manufacturers, the Max loads are actually less than another manufacturer's starting load. This is why I started compiling all the data I had so I could always start at the low end of the starting loads. So far, I have never found one of these starting loads to be so low that the gun didn't cycle.

 

[woodsoup]

JSWC is jacketed semi-wadcutter.
JHP is jacketed hollow point.
XTP is eXtreme Terminal Performance (aka JHP)

Not that XTP and JHP/JSWC loads are 100% interchangable. But if you are developing loads, and starting below max. you can use the data interchangably.(is that even a word?) for that weight bullet.

 

[noylj]

And, in my compilation, GD-HP is the Gold Dot Hollow Point, which is a VERY thick copper plated bullet that is loaded like jacketed and not like the thin plated bullets from Rainier and Berry (?).