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1894 Remington

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by whughett, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. whughett

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    Bought this some thirty odd years ago at a gun show for $225. It’s hung on a wall in the basement loading/ hobby room ever since. Always intended to restore it. Some previous owner cut the stock down, length of pull is around 12 inches. Too short for me. Both barrels, one ordnance steel, 26 inches, one Damascus, 30 inches, have bright shiny bores, no rust or pitting. The Damacus is missing both beads. The ejectors work and there are no visible cracks in the stock. Lock up is tight nothings loose. The splinter forearm is worn but has a fair amount of checkering and no cracks or chipped wood. all matching numbers, barrels, lock works, fore arm steel and stocks.

    I think its a candidate for some upland game hunting with black powder shells.
    Just ordered a recoil pad and some spacers from Midway to bring the LOP back to around 14 inches

    Would like to replace the beads on the Damascus barrel, don't know what kit to order from Brownells, suggestions anyone.

    I know it’s a “B” grade and the “E” means ejectors, aside from that anyone know what the rest of the markings are.
     

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  2. clang

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    The expert on the old Rem SxSs was Charlie Semmer, but he passed away about 5 years ago. He wrote a book about Rem doubles, but used mostly existing examples for his documentation because none of the original production paperwork survives to the day (I think there was a fire).

    Most info about the markings are speculation. The numbers on the bottom of the lug may indicate the number of pellets inside a circle at a specified distance for a specified shot. What the circle size, distance, shot size and load are is not known. The barrels with 245 and 177 on them are probably Mod and Full. Interestingly, One of your your lugs says MOD on one side and 50 on the other. The MOD may have been stamped over something else.

    Are the Damascus barrels cut down? What are the length and do they have any choke in them? Do both sets of barrels have the same serial number as the frame, the SN is fuzzy on one set of barrels?
     
  3. whughett

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    All Numbers match. Both barrels, the iron work for the forearm the frame, the serial numbers seem to be on most of the major parts.

    The Damascus barrel isn’t cut as far as I can tell. It’s 30 inches, the steel 26 inches.
    This old brass choke gage indicates both barrel modified on the Damascus. The steel one, left barrel Modified, right barrel Improved modified.

    The over stamped MOD is over numbers 157. Read on another forum two digits would indicate a 3 before. So a 350 pellet count would indicate a full choke even if this gage doesn’t indicate it.
    Thanks for the reply
     

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    I owned one with steel 30" barrels in 12ga and shot trap with it, it had a lot of drop and I had to shoot it with no cheek weld and had to learn to hold my head just right to get good scores at trap with it. I did shoot one 25-25 with it after many-many tries.
     
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  5. clang

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    I got the barrels backwards, I thought the Damascus barrels were the short ones.

    I guess if you could afford a BE grade back then, you could afford an extra set of barrels. I wonder if the gun was sent back to Remington to have shorter barrels added after the stock was cut down to return the center of balance.
     
  6. whughett

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    Mystery of old guns.
    Waiting on an order from Midway for recoil pad and spacers to add a least an 1 1/2 inch to the LOP. I shoot a lot of black powder so going to spend some time loading Black powder shot shells, heck I might even try a little cowboy action shooting.

    That was my original idea when I purchased it. My club had trap ranges then and I had started trying my hand at it.
     
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    Depending on how much money you want to spend and how much you would like to shoot them, you could have them sent to Kolar or Briley and have titanium 20 gauge tubes installed and shoot as much modern 20 gauge through them as you wanted. Weight would be about a pound or so added.
     
  8. whughett

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    Enticing as that sounds, there are only so many spare dollars to spend on the shooting sports. Not a shot gunner at heart, more a hand gun enthusiasts and there are any number if those I don’t have. :).
    Thanks for the thought though.
    Hoping #3 son,43, who does a little muzzle loading hunting can use it for some upland game hunting. I’ll get it set up, load up some rounds and see where it goes.
     
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