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Yes, I had to polish the throats, and the RIA needed to have the extractor tuned up a bit. After I did that, they ran 100% with everything I fed them.
1911 decision Springfield or Rock Island
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Yes, I had to polish the throats, and the RIA needed to have the extractor tuned up a bit. After I did that, they ran 100% with everything I fed them.
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Detritus
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there area few around, some of the folks over at 1911Forum have them, also consider that Charles Daly and at least some High Standard 1911s are also built by armscor using the same Frame, Slide, and (i'm willing to bet) model appropriate small parts.
Lastly, even though it's a model that hasn't really had enough time on the market for there to be "high round count" examples, the STI Spartan is build on Armscor frame/side sets.
Fumbler
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I picked up my RIA 1911 Tactical and took it to the range this weekend.
I'm impressed by the quality. I'd say overall fit and finish are 95% of a SA.
There are a few machining marks. The muzzle end of the slide shows a few around the recoil spring cover. I did find a few small metal shaving inside the slide and grip safety area that were left over from the machining.
The beavertail safety isn't perfectly flush on the underside where it pivots.
The gun just barely rattles. My Sig 228 rattles more. I'm no expert shot, but I can shoot it as accurately as my Sig and GP-100.
The finish is a nice parkerized look. More of a dark grey than black. Out of the box, the finish was worn off the corner of the frame behind the right side of the safety. I attribute that to poor handling during assembly.
The grips are some foreign hardwood. I think they're a little too fat and will probably swap them out. They are slick too. Out of the box there were a few wood fibers that didn't get cut cleanly out of the mag latch cutout. That took about 1 minute to clean up with a pocket knife.
The gun truely is impressive when you consider the cost.
I had two hiccups. Once when my friend disengaged the slide catch and the round didn't fully chamber. The other time it did the same thing while he shot it. It did not take much force to push it into battery.
I think it's a magazine problem. The gun came with one Novak's 8 round mag. It is very difficult to push a round out with your thumb because the case catches near the rear of the feed lips. So, I think the slide spends all its energy pushing a round out and doesn't have enough left to push it into battery. Swapping the mags or a little filing may fix that.
Other than that, it worked well for the 150 rounds I shot.
The safety engages and disengages with a good snap, the slide catch works, the Novak's style sights are nice.
I'm just getting started. Time will tell how durable and reliable it really is.
However, at $445 out the door it's one hell of a deal.
I wouldn't buy any other 1911 if I had the money.
I just wish I could get it in stainless...
I'm impressed by the quality. I'd say overall fit and finish are 95% of a SA.
There are a few machining marks. The muzzle end of the slide shows a few around the recoil spring cover. I did find a few small metal shaving inside the slide and grip safety area that were left over from the machining.
The beavertail safety isn't perfectly flush on the underside where it pivots.
The gun just barely rattles. My Sig 228 rattles more. I'm no expert shot, but I can shoot it as accurately as my Sig and GP-100.
The finish is a nice parkerized look. More of a dark grey than black. Out of the box, the finish was worn off the corner of the frame behind the right side of the safety. I attribute that to poor handling during assembly.
The grips are some foreign hardwood. I think they're a little too fat and will probably swap them out. They are slick too. Out of the box there were a few wood fibers that didn't get cut cleanly out of the mag latch cutout. That took about 1 minute to clean up with a pocket knife.
The gun truely is impressive when you consider the cost.
I had two hiccups. Once when my friend disengaged the slide catch and the round didn't fully chamber. The other time it did the same thing while he shot it. It did not take much force to push it into battery.
I think it's a magazine problem. The gun came with one Novak's 8 round mag. It is very difficult to push a round out with your thumb because the case catches near the rear of the feed lips. So, I think the slide spends all its energy pushing a round out and doesn't have enough left to push it into battery. Swapping the mags or a little filing may fix that.
Other than that, it worked well for the 150 rounds I shot.
The safety engages and disengages with a good snap, the slide catch works, the Novak's style sights are nice.
I'm just getting started. Time will tell how durable and reliable it really is.
However, at $445 out the door it's one hell of a deal.
I wouldn't buy any other 1911 if I had the money.
I just wish I could get it in stainless...
Black Majik
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Easily the Springfield. All things considered, the main reason would be the forged slide and frame.
10-Ring
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Go w/ the Springer! 
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I have a 1911A1 rock and just bought a Springfield hi-cap 1911 loaded. Both are Parkerized finish and appear to be quite alike in fit and finish. The rock does have a forged slide (actually a extrusion process that is very durable. The Rock is also CNC machined. Either the Rock or Springer will be a fine choice.Or you could get both...
My RIA 1911A1 with stainless beavertail and Crimson Trace grips
My Springfield PX9707L high cap
I like the parkerized models.Chuck.
My RIA 1911A1 with stainless beavertail and Crimson Trace grips
My Springfield PX9707L high cap
I like the parkerized models.Chuck.
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Cocked & Locked
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That's a hard decision to make...Springfield -vs- RIA. I once had that problem and decided on shiny Super .38 ones of both brands
Then to confirm my decision, I decided I needed one more of each. I found another nickled RIA, but can't find another Springfield one.
Then to confirm my decision, I decided I needed one more of each. I found another nickled RIA, but can't find another Springfield one.
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Where did you find those beauties?
jaydee1156
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Get both!
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Detritus
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I will, the question was which to get first
dogngun
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I recently bought an Armscor-made 1911 compact pistol, my 3rd Armscor -made 1911 over the last 8 years. (Armscor makes RIA and Charles Daly 1911's). I liked it so much, I bought another full size Daly 1911 yesterday.
I have NEVER had any problems with any RIA/Charles Daly/Armscor 1911 pistol. I have used them as carry pistols in the past, and carry my Compact right now. I will carry the full size as soon as I have run some rounds thgrough it (it was bought used).
They are great 1911 pistols.
Armscor has excellent customer service and very high quality standards.
FWIW, I bought my first 1911 in 1972, a Remington Rand.
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I have NEVER had any problems with any RIA/Charles Daly/Armscor 1911 pistol. I have used them as carry pistols in the past, and carry my Compact right now. I will carry the full size as soon as I have run some rounds thgrough it (it was bought used).
They are great 1911 pistols.
Armscor has excellent customer service and very high quality standards.
FWIW, I bought my first 1911 in 1972, a Remington Rand.
Mark
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I've got and enjoy both, but get the Springfield. Here's why.
Springfield has the highest quality frame and slide one the market today, they are drilled and milled square and the barrels are accurate. Everything else is gravy, especially if you ever want to swap/upgrade parts. You'll really appreciate the frame being square, then. My G.I. is being re-built into a carry gun and will retire my current when it comes home. Utterly reliable, after swapping out the questionable factory recoil spring. A whopping $7.
My Armscorp pistol is my daily carry gun right now. It's beat up, finish worn and has some pretty bad scratches, but it runs. It runs to the tune of about 10,000 rounds so far and I had my first failure this past spring. Well, first non-magazine related failure. I had fits for the first couple weeks of ownership finding mags that tripped the slide stop reliably. Oddly, CMC shooting stars work well, as well as Colt and Mec-Gar.
Springfield has the highest quality frame and slide one the market today, they are drilled and milled square and the barrels are accurate. Everything else is gravy, especially if you ever want to swap/upgrade parts. You'll really appreciate the frame being square, then. My G.I. is being re-built into a carry gun and will retire my current when it comes home. Utterly reliable, after swapping out the questionable factory recoil spring. A whopping $7.
My Armscorp pistol is my daily carry gun right now. It's beat up, finish worn and has some pretty bad scratches, but it runs. It runs to the tune of about 10,000 rounds so far and I had my first failure this past spring. Well, first non-magazine related failure. I had fits for the first couple weeks of ownership finding mags that tripped the slide stop reliably. Oddly, CMC shooting stars work well, as well as Colt and Mec-Gar.
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