1k for a shotgun?

[Carter]

This may be my own ignorance, hence why I'm asking, but why are there shotguns that cost 1k and more? I love shotguns and they are great weapons, but they are relatively simple, compared to say an AR and other rifles. I was looking at some of FN's shotties when posing this question. I guess this could also be applied to those really expensive over/under shotguns too. Keep in mind I'm more of a rifle guy before hazing me to badly.

Thank you.

*disclaimer*
I meant for this to be a discussion on combat shotguns. Not O/Uers, which was meant to be a side question out of curiosity.

 

[huntsman]

Why does the price of a shotgun always seem to be and issue?

MOA rifles aren't cheap and neither are most handguns why should a shotgun be an exception?

 

[earlthegoat2]

Well.......

There are shotguns out there which are hand made all the way from the butt end of the stock to the crown on the barrel.

Some of the crazy patterned walnut that is used on the stock itself can cost more than 1000 dollars just for the blank.

If you hand fit and file an action, you will understand.

Human labor is the major reason.

Select steel and walnut.

For barrel regulation, you must shoot the gun and then make a trial and error adjustment with the barrels to make them shoot and cross at the exact distance.

Custom fitting a stock takes some serious time and money.

 

[rfurtkamp]

You pay increasingly, on anything, gun or not, for diminishing returns on performance, plus money for cosmetics.

 

[Carter]

I didn't mean to imply that they weren't worth a good deal more, I just wasn't sure why. MOA rifles are made for precision, while shotguns can be precise, it goes against their nature IMO*.
Like I said though, I'm new to the world of SGs.

 

[.45Heater]

Competitive shooters pay upwards of $5000 for a shotgun...for a reason.

 

[35Rem]

Different reasons. Quality is a major factor. Materials used. Custom features. Difficulty in manufacture. Quality of fit and finish.

A Remington 870 Express is considered an entry level gun, whereas a Perazzi or Kreigoff (spelling?) is something for experts that is usually custom fitted with expensive wood and is expected to last 10's of thousands of rounds with little or no maintenance.

 

[bobelk99]

Consider this one:

I have a business acquaintance who just paid 58k plus a brokers fee for a matched pair of 12 gauge SXS that were used!

 

[Al LaVodka]

Who ARE you guys? It is like asking why someone buys a Rolls Royce when there are Government Motors Union made Chevy's. Or wears a man's watch instead of a woman's. Either will get you to the shop or tell time but they are different.

Al

 

[oneounceload]

A shotgun under 5,000 seems to have issues....

why are people questioning shotgun prices but seem to have no issues with a 1911 at 4,000, or a custom rifle at the same price?

Obviously, some folks have no idea what goes into making a very good, well-regulated shotgun......(I'm not talking about some POS chicom pump or turkish double)

 

[Carter]

Now I feel like the poor guy at the House of Lords now...

my limit on any firearm would be $2500
and def not for a 1911..

 

[tactikel]

Think of cars to get some perspective. Is a 150K Ferrari the same as a 25K used Corvette? No, are both great cars able to accomplish just about any task you can imagine? Heck yea.
Is a 5K Perrazi the same as a Beretta Onyx, or a Rem 870 pump, NO, but will each bust Pheasants in the hands of a decent shot? Heck yea. Focus on getting a reliable shotgun (NOT a "SHOTTIE") that fits you and practise you a$$ off- you will be able to outshoot the others most every time you hit the field.

 

[Handgunner]

Obviously, some folks have no idea what goes into making a very good, well-regulated shotgun

Maybe that's why he asked the question.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Some people pay good money just to have something others cannot have.
Some enjoy the workmanship and the quality.
Some do it just to show off.

Some have called a nice gun the poor man's yacht. I think that is because like a fine boat every square of a nice gun inch can be doted over, polished, enjoyed, debated and savored. What's more, like the yacht there is no end to how a gun can be improved, and unlike other collectables, a nice shotgun screams to be used.

For me it's a lot cheaper than collecting boats, airplanes, cars or motorcycles.
Fortunately, as long as I pay about the market rate for a used gun (and I emphasize used), I am usually able to enjoy it for a while and then sell it for about what I paid for it. Sometimes a little bit more sometimes a little bit less.

Have Fun!

If it comes to home defense, a used Remington 870 in proper working order can be had for under $200 and will do the home defense job just fine.

 

[vicdotcom]

I have seen shotguns that go for 10-15k. Then there are the shotguns that cost as much as a luxury car or cheap house.

 

[oneounceload]

OK, fair enough.....

A well regulated gun has barrels that are light weight; handle like a conductor's wand, and feel like an extension of your arm - these guns are not of the pump
variety, nor are they typically a semi.........they are an O/U (or a SxS for those who like a challenge) - either gun, barrels are regulated to a certain POA/POI and it takes a lot of hand work to make it right.....hand fitting like that will increase cost accordingly

 

[bushmaster1313]

It's in the Constitution:

Well regulated barrels and other expensive niceties being necessary to the security of the ego of some shotgunners, the right of the People to overpay for guns shall not be infringed.

 

[Carter]

haha

the right of the People to overpay for guns shall not be infringed

that was priceless

 

[vicdotcom]

Well regulated barrels and other expensive niceties being necessary to the security of the ego of some shotgunners, the right of the People to overpay for guns shall not be infringed.

I know you are probably just being witty. It was pretty funny. But I stopped judging what people pay for their gear. Some people choke on a horse when I tell them how much I pay for my fishing poles or reels. And yes, it makes a big difference. I can imagine how Shotguns can be the same thing.

 

[Carter]

Well this discussion went a little off course. I was trying to aim it towards combat type shotguns, like the FN ones I mentioned, and have the O/Uers as a side bar.


With the Benelli m4 its piston driven system is a nice step up from a pump...but 1,600 is a bit much.

 

[Dave McCracken]

Shoot what you want to, and can afford. Good shotguns do not have to cost that much.

I pointed out a Kolar SBT to a new shooter a couple weeks past. I knew the owner slightly, he's a decent sort. The new shooter asked why anyone would pay that kind of money.

I said that owning a Kolar may not guarantee one to be a super good shot, but it may indicate a level of commitment beyond the usual.

Whether you're using a Mossberg, a Mariocchi, or a McKay Brown, shoot safely, be courteous and a sportsperson, and you're welcome on any Squad I'm in.

 

[Youngster]

Well this discussion went a little off course. I was trying to aim it towards combat type shotguns, like the FN ones I mentioned, and have the O/Uers as a side bar.

With the Benelli m4 its piston driven system is a nice step up from a pump...but 1,600 is a bit much.

Ammo costs will quickly dwarf the cost of the gun if you shoot it on any kind of regular basis. A good autoloader will simply outperform a pump or cheap autoloader in just about anyone's hands.

As a dedicated shotgunner I figure it's worth it to get a really nice gun and look to save money elsewhere.

 

[huntsman]

Well this discussion went a little off course. I was trying to aim it towards combat type shotguns, like the FN ones I mentioned, and have the O/Uers as a side bar.


With the Benelli m4 its piston driven system is a nice step up from a pump...but 1,600 is a bit much.

All I know is when you add the tactical gadgets or looks you get an up charge; I believe a Benelli is worth the cost because they have perfected the short recoil system.

Oops the M4 doesn't use their traditional system, but it looks cool so that has to cost more.

I don’t think the price of a shotgun is any real mystery; the single shot is the cheapest to make and a double is the most expensive a semi cost more than a pump, certain makes and models are more desirable thus command more and extras cost as does quality materials and extra labor.

 

[JohnBT]

McDonalds will sell you an inexpensive hamburger too, but is it what you really, really, really want?



It is surely made with high quality ingredients, who could ask for anything more? <rimshot>

John

 

[oletymer]

These days a lot of shooters won't know the difference in a quality gun. That is pretty sad because a lot of the older people had to depend on one for their lives.