FreedomCommando
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2 shot by Horn in Pasadena, TX, were here illegally
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He probably will, but not because the two guys he killed were illegal aliens. Their immigration status has nothing to do with the circumstances of the shooting.
The fact that that they are illegal won't be a factor, unless Mexico tries to influence the outcome. My neighbors and I have exchanged written authorizations to each other to protect each other's homes when we are out of town, because burglars are hitting our area, a first in 30 yrs. Just cover your bases according to the laws in your state.
On the Criminal side of things, it actually will help. To make the jury believe that these were serial felons, here illegaly, one of them was deported 10 years ago and came back to continue his criminal activity here in the U.S. Is there a doubt that Mr. Horn saved lives by acting in the manner he did?
We may not strictly agree, but there is no question that they were the criminals and not him.
We may not strictly agree, but there is no question that they were the criminals and not him.
joab
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Perhaps Horn could sue the government for putting him in that position through their malpractice
nalioth
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How will Mexico affect anything? The two guys weren't Mexican.BAT1 said:
I have to agree with those that say these new findings will help the old man out. It's a process called "jury nullification" similar to what happened with OJ. It will be hard for a jury to convict him because they see how criminal the "victims" are.
However, I would also not be suprised if he is instead convict of something less like misdemeanor assault, or discharging a weapon in city limits etc.
BAT1,
I have never thought about an exchange of written authorizations before with a neighbor. That sounds very interesting and possibly helpful. Please PM me with details such as
Did you contact a lawyer first
Did you know your neighbor well before you did this
What does the authorization say
Thank you
However, I would also not be suprised if he is instead convict of something less like misdemeanor assault, or discharging a weapon in city limits etc.
BAT1,
I have never thought about an exchange of written authorizations before with a neighbor. That sounds very interesting and possibly helpful. Please PM me with details such as
Did you contact a lawyer first
Did you know your neighbor well before you did this
What does the authorization say
Thank you
nalioth
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ArmedBear said:
The two guys were Colombian and Puerto Rican. They were not Mexican.
30 cal slob
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amongst most law-abiding non-minority citizens, their status as illegals doesn't garner a lot of public sympathy for them, in fact, the opposite, of course.
however, a zealous prosecutor or other elected official who wants to pander to the hispanic vote (remember, this is the fastest growing and therefore important demographic in the U.S.) in TX could conceivably use this case to prosecute Mr. Horn solely for political gain.
however, a zealous prosecutor or other elected official who wants to pander to the hispanic vote (remember, this is the fastest growing and therefore important demographic in the U.S.) in TX could conceivably use this case to prosecute Mr. Horn solely for political gain.
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I believe that he should and probably will walk eventually ! but their immigration status has little to do with the shooting ! It is possible that this gang targets foreignors because it is likely that they dont want the attention of government ! If you were living illegaly in the US you might not have a bank account so cash would be in the house , you would be unlikely to report the crime becasue of your own immigration status ,these things combine to make you a prime target for theft or robbery ! Kevin
nerfsrule2
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Thank God for Mr. Horns sake this happened in Texas...at least there he has a chance for a fair trial...( If he was in New Jersey he would be a dead man!!)
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I'm not sure that would be much use in a shooting defense, as you still cannot do anything other than that allowed by law in defense of your own or any other property. Though it might help in the heat of the moment if you are trying to show your authorization to be on the property when a peace officer shows up.
I have a verbal agreement with one of my neighbors to look after his place, but no explicit written documentation. Still he paid for part of the locked gate across his driveway that is on my land. And of course his house keys are sitting in a drawer in my house.
And the furnace repairman could testify that I let him in the house last winter.FreedomCommando
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I live here in Houston, and have followed this story since day one. Both were confirmed Colombian. The police had initially found identity documents - later found to be forged - indicating that they might have come from Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic.
They were dope dealers who also trafficked in stolen property and forged identity documents.
I disagree. If this case were ever tried before a jury, a skillful defense lawyer would in effect put the two dead guys on trial as part of a "he needed killin" defense.
Ridiculous.
That's not correct. Texas law allows for the use of lethal force in defense of a neighbor's property under certain conditions. See Texas Penal Code 9.43.
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It seems that we have some Hank Hills here...
HANK: So, are you Chinese or Japanese?
KAHN: I live in California last twenty years, but first come from Laos.
HANK: Huh?
KAHN: Laos. We Laotian.
BILL: The ocean? What ocean?
KAHN: We are Laotian. From Laos, stupid! It's a landlocked country in Southeast Asia. It's between Vietnam and Thailand, okay? Population 4.7 million.
HANK: So, are you Chinese or Japanese?
The two dead burglars were both Colombian...you know, that country in northwestern South America bordered by Panama, Venezuela, Brazil, and Ecuador...you know, population about 45 million?
They weren't Mexican. People....not all "Latinos" are the same!
They had IDs from Colombia, Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico. But they were Colombian citizens, both of them, and were in the US illegally.
Just wanted to get that straight before we go on speculating about this case.
HANK: So, are you Chinese or Japanese?
KAHN: I live in California last twenty years, but first come from Laos.
HANK: Huh?
KAHN: Laos. We Laotian.
BILL: The ocean? What ocean?
KAHN: We are Laotian. From Laos, stupid! It's a landlocked country in Southeast Asia. It's between Vietnam and Thailand, okay? Population 4.7 million.
HANK: So, are you Chinese or Japanese?
The two dead burglars were both Colombian...you know, that country in northwestern South America bordered by Panama, Venezuela, Brazil, and Ecuador...you know, population about 45 million?
They weren't Mexican. People....not all "Latinos" are the same!
They had IDs from Colombia, Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico. But they were Colombian citizens, both of them, and were in the US illegally.
Just wanted to get that straight before we go on speculating about this case.
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